Paint Your Mafia… Mafia: Electric Boogaloo - Night 4 - Town wins!

[Aelin]

@Arctic

wind and i pointed out some things in his favour

can you link/quote them please

@Arctic

i do find it to be a weird perspective how you’re voting the person the player you’re supposedly in a thunderdome with is gunning for

its almost like ive never put stock into poor thunderdomes when any percentage of bullshit could be going on
why do you think i dont play botc

@Arctic

like
it’s one thing to look outside of the dome, but the way you’re completely disregarding it looks like you have TMI that whysper is a villager

dunno what to tell you other than stop being an idiot
her first slot was villagery
shes been villagery
the way she handled her claim was villagery

[WindwardAway]

I should actually maybe backread

[WindwardAway]

@Wazza

I think that message about Marissa having logs like that is completely fake and a scum mod-posting

@Wazza

@Intensify

Tinfoil: This post was a mod post made by scum

Intensify locktown

@thepigeonnyc

@Aelin

issue with that is that whysper is claiming to have tracked him to pigeon

/vote Whysper
OK

@Whysper

@Wazza

I think that message about Marissa having logs like that is completely fake and a scum mod-posting

I think that’s highly unlikely. I hadn’t even revealed who Marissa visited.

@Wazza

Just so you know, I can find this out soon and if I find out it’s a modpost, I’m voting you as that’s two things against you, I am almost positive Aelin blocked all visitors to Marissa and this is a ploy.

@thepigeonnyc

This feels mildly like W!Wazza, who is so sure about things with little explanation and expects sheep.

I guess that W can also stand for Wazza though

@Wazza

@thepigeonnyc

This feels mildly like W!Wazza, who is so sure about things with little explanation and expects sheep.

I don’t need explanation. People get pushed on for tinfoils and people’s hopes. This is something I can prove.

Would you rather I blindly believe it and push on you?

@thepigeonnyc

@Wazza

Would you rather I blindly believe it and push on you?

It’s more the “I’m about to find out” situation

@Whysper

@Wazza

Just so you know, I can find this out soon and if I find out it’s a modpost, I’m voting you as that’s two things against you, I am almost positive Aelin blocked all visitors to Marissa and this is a ploy.

Though I don’t see how you would even think this. I mean yeah, you could think the message was a modpost. But why would I bother claiming to track Marshal to Pigeon? The modpost itself would have been enough to potentially get Pigeon killed. And putting myself in there just makes me get voted if Pigeon flips town.

@thepigeonnyc

It allows you to push Aelin

@Whysper

But if you flip town, there’s nothing to push Aelin on

I’m somewhere over here in reading and I think Whysper had the most villagery reaction of the three

[WindwardAway]

I didn’t read this stuff before

[Arctic]

@Aelin

her first slot was villagery
shes been villagery
the way she handled her claim was villagery

elaborate

[WindwardAway]

Actually the way she handled her claim was villagery
After reading the posts I’d skipped before, I see it now

[Arctic]

i don’t disagree

i just want aelin to explain so she can prove she actually has the progression to back up her whysper v read because without it it looks like she tmi’d the slot v

[Aelin]

on which part?

[Arctic]

everything
why is the slot a villager

[Aelin]

part 1) i rt’ed anthem and tried to bait them into scumreading me
they answered in a cognitively consistent way with their methodology before that
part 2) whysper has been attempting to solve rather than sticking with a basic mindset
i am able to follow her thought flow and understand her hesitancies
part 3) she outed the existence of the info early in order to see anything out of the ordinary from responses, then backed up marissa’s logs when they were posted, as well as posting her picture immediately
the way i see it, if i scumread her for that its akin to scumreading myself because she acted in essentially the same way i did

[Arctic]

@Aelin

part 1) i rt’ed anthem and tried to bait them into scumreading me
they answered in a cognitively consistent way with their methodology before that

what does this mean
i don’t really have any context

@Aelin

part 2) whysper has been attempting to solve rather than sticking with a basic mindset
i am able to follow her thought flow and understand her hesitancies

really?
to me it looks like sticking with a basic mindset is exactly what she’s been doing
she’s stuck with her reads and hasn’t offered much in terms of re-evaluation
it doesn’t look like she’s solving anything

none of her posts actually show her solving
you can’t see any of her cognitions
every time she’s explained anything it’s been a pre-existing conclusion she already came to

@Aelin

part 3) she outed the existence of the info early in order to see anything out of the ordinary from responses, then backed up marissa’s logs when they were posted, as well as posting her picture immediately
the way i see it, if i scumread her for that its akin to scumreading myself because she acted in essentially the same way i did

this makes sense

[Wazza]

I can’t say I agree, I’m afraid.

Can you explain why you find it Townie? At the current moment, I just see it as someone who’s refusing to retract their claim.

[Arctic]

hey wazza
who are the wolves

[Aelin]

@Arctic

@Aelin

part 1) i rt’ed anthem and tried to bait them into scumreading me

they answered in a cognitively consistent way with their methodology before that

what does this mean
i don’t really have any context

@Aelin

@AnthemBell

i wouldnt say what kanave pushing on me a little is necessarily scummy or scummy pinging purely on that, however, i could see it as her maybe lining up a potential pocket

why is this so wordy for saying “i have no opinion”

@AnthemBell

i resent that statement >:T

@AnthemBell

meant to reply to the one calling me wordy btw

@Aelin

ok
but do you disagree with it

@AnthemBell

i can still resent it

@Aelin

Ok
in that case
let me ask you this: why did you use so many words?
Did you feel like you had to give an opinion?

@AnthemBell

uh idk tbh, i just haven’t really like, posted much ig? so i wanted to do something, but i dont really have anything to say since i dont really have reads or anything atm

@Aelin

I see
I have a task for you
ISO the top poster, come back with a very simple answer of town or scum, and give me a few sentences of reasoning.

@AnthemBell

alrighty, the person is intensify since at the time i did this they had most posts
im getting a little scum from them, though nothing enough that i would want to actively push to vote them ig?
they seem impatient? there are multiple instances where they like, actively pushed players to get results and/or talked about how slow the game was, which i could see as a town wanting things to happen. however, i do think in mafia town is generally in it for the long game, since it gives more time to gain info, and that it gets easier to suss out scum the longer a game goes on

there was also a point where they talked about how they act as wolf, and i have had games where scum divulge this info in an attempt to appear more town by being like, “look at me, this is how i act as evil and im telling you this so you can look for it in me. no mafia would do this because it makes it harder for them” (this is obv hyperbole but the idea is there)

generally v talkative? nothing pointing to either town or scum yet, but something to be aware of imo. could be a way of flooding chat/causing chaos? havent played with them so i wouldnt know if thats just common or not

@Aelin

Hm.
So, is the impatience scummy?

@AnthemBell

uhhh maybe a little???

@Aelin

Yes or no?

@Aelin

I’d like a solid answer, because right now I’m having trouble following your train of thought

@AnthemBell

look idk, its hard to do straight binary thinking like that, it pings scummy to me

@Aelin

H m m . . .
Alright.

@Aelin

In that case, let me ask you a different question, Anthem:
Is me pressuring you for an answer scummy?

@AnthemBell

uhhhhh ehh??? i mean, i can def see it, but i can also see it as trying to like, push me to give reads or try to ya’know?

@Aelin

facedesk
i just want a straight answer aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ok
uh
GTH, what’s my alignment?

@AnthemBell

town for now ig?

@AnthemBell

just like, really pushy town

@Aelin

/vote AnthemBell
@Mercenary

i try and sleep now
whoever can ping me with why im voting them gets a cookie

@AnthemBell

j okes on you, that still reads as town to me

after this i fell asleep until after eod and accidentally duskposted
which was a bruh moment
but my conclusion was v from the fact that their thought process seemed like newbtown and the fact that they didnt reverse their read from me voting them was a good look

[Arctic]

you literally said in these posts that you’re having trouble following their train of thought lmao
how is there anything cognitively consistent here

[Aelin]

i was trying to see if theyd stutter up or misstep from high amounts of pressure
also

@Arctic

really?
to me it looks like sticking with a basic mindset is exactly what she’s been doing
she’s stuck with her reads and hasn’t offered much in terms of re-evaluation
it doesn’t look like she’s solving anything

none of her posts actually show her solving
you can’t see any of her cognitions
every time she’s explained anything it’s been a pre-existing conclusion she already came to

retracting this because i was mostly thinking it because of her treatment of me
but going through her full iso it more feels like she’s just fencesitting on me

[Arctic]

well i’m glad we agree on that
it felt like she was v reading you out of obligation and then the reasoning came later

[Wazza]

eh, I’m indecisive.

although atm I personally think it’s Intensify/Zone_Q11 or Whysper/Pigeon

[Wazza]

@Wazza

Intensify/Zone_Q11 or Whysper/Pigeon

this was put poorly

Intensify/Pigeon/Zone_Q11 or Whysper

[Wazza]

@Wazza

Intensify/Pigeon/Zone_Q11

Leaning towards this one.

Socially, Intensify has been ignored to a point where I forgot he was in this game and personally I think he’s just wolfy because of that, take Overwatch FM for example.