n1 I was roleblocked and then I acted n3 I think
the reason I suspect Wind is that I know scum have roles that can benefit each other via visiting and wind claims to not have a role that visits others
I have no reason to lie about my role or my actions, and itās really frustrating that I have no mech defense whatsoever because both Jane and Gorta are claiming to not have acted last night. I know one of them is lying, and Gortaās information directly conflicts with my role because I literally canāt visit.
My flavor is Leo Valdez and Iām a protective role. I have a 2-shot commute and I used it for the first time last night. Emilia never used it at all before I subbed in, and I guess she just assumed sheād never get killed. Since she was PoEād there was probably always a chance someone would investigate her, and it makes sense why she wouldnāt want to tamper with an investigative check that could potentially clear her.
I basically did the exact opposite last night because as I explained before, I thought if I could prove that I commuted out of the game, Iād be mech cleared as not being a wolf because I couldnāt perform the factional. I confirmed that I interpreted this correctly by asking hosts, but feel free to double check for your own knowledge if you want to confirm.
As far as I know, Iām more or less thunderdomed with gorta because his information conflicts with mine. The only case in which I am not exactly thunderdomed is if thereās other mech fuckery going on, which Iām trying to figure out in my solve.
Zone on Emilia
I decided to look first into Zoneās ISO, and basically what I see is a lot of agenda on my slot and also voting Emilia. He starts on it pretty early when he encourages people to wagon Emilia instead of Eli, probably in an attempt to whiteknight Eli to make himself look better. The argument he gives against Emilia is that people are using her meta to cover up for her bad play, which idk, maybe he has a point that itās stupid on its own, but itās also a correct evaluation because Emilia was town. Iāll admit itās really weird subbing into a game in MyLo when youāre straight PoE, and at first I was confident I could get myself out of this position just by solving the game, but irl time constraints became a major issue for me and it interrupted my flow of backreading.
Later on when Wazza writes her thorough case on w!Zone, Zoneās response is that he didnāt want to push on Emilia any further or heād look like he was tunnelling, which is a very wolfy response since a villager wouldnāt be worried about pushing reads they believe in. Not that Iām here to scumcase a dead wolf, but my point is that a wolf would back off a villager wagon thatās not gaining enough traction in order to look better from a later flip. In w/w cases it makes more sense for a wolf to continue distancing from their partner when itās safe, because thereās no immediate danger of elimination.
Zone said that originally he was sheeping the case on Emilia, but that it had become his own case, and insinuated that he wanted credit for her flip (but he was a wolf so lol get rekt). Similarly, Nightingale kept insisting on D3-D4 that the last wolves had to be Luxy and me, and with Luxy already flipped as a green and Night herself just lolcatting, all she did was briefly push me and then dip.
Zone on Gorta
The next thing Iām looking at is how many times Zone mentioned Gorta. The first interaction I see is when Gorta mentioned he had questions for Zone, but I didnāt see Gorta actually ask anything (on a side note I really miss multi-ISOing). The only other thing I see is Zone asking gorta whether he has something to back up the scumread on Alice/Wazzaās slot, which gorta replies to saying he didnāt have much of a read on Alice but heāll explain the Wazza read, but then says he doesnāt remember making a read on Wazza and just had gut vibes from Alice. Following that brief interaction, Zone goes straight for voting Gorta to get better explanations from him. Because itās a pressure vote, it doesnāt mean much as it insinuates Zone might not keep his vote there. The only new explanation gorta gives is that he got gut reactions from realtiming with Alice.
Zoneās later post complaining that gorta is using his trees as an excuse to not give explanations for his reads, in light of Zone being a wolf, actually looks like a very weak reason to push him. The fact is that Zone still isnāt pushing gorta; it looks to me like heās just testing the waters to see if he can stay on the gorta wagon without actually scumreading him. Also of note is that Zone starts interacting with Nightingale with regard to the Gorta thing. We now know they were w/w, and this was all just an attempt to distance from each other. The weird thing is just how Zone and Night are using Gorta as a pivot point in between them to discuss how it reflects on Zone, and while it looks weirder for Night than it does for Zone, it also looks slightly better for Gorta? I donāt know if a wolf would use one partner as a point to distance from another, but Zone also never really pushed on Night, he just said she had gone insane lol.
Overall, I got somewhat mixed feelings on gorta from reading this and I think it would be more productive to read what Night had to say about him, and to read gortaās own ISO. I understand itās confirmed he was roleblocked on the first use of his ability, but Iām still not sure that gortaās actually a tracker/watcher, because it would be very easy for him to claim as a wolf he was roleblocked so he wouldnāt get outed if there was a town roleblocker (Eli) and he knew his action had failed, and additionally I literally did not visit Night when he says I did. I just subbed in, checked my rolecard, saw that Emilia was getting pushed, and thought Iād no-action in case someone wanted to check my slot since it didnāt look like Iād get killed there.
Zone on Jane
The last thing in Zoneās ISO I wanted to examine was where his stance was on Jane and how theyāve interacted. Zoneās interactions with Jane look extremely sparse and none of them at all provide a read on them. In fact, what I noticed was that every time Zone replies to Jane, itās either about someone else (mostly Eli), itās unrelated to solving, or itās just answering a question. Itās basically a lot of side mentioning without any solid takes, and it looks pretty bad the way he seems to dance around Janeās slot for most of his ISO. I donāt actually think Janeās questions look that bad, but there arenāt many of them. Zone questions anything from Jane on the other hand, except at some point when Silviu(?) had a question and Zone pinged Jane to ask Silviuās question.
I donāt really like how Zone looks like he was avoiding Jane, but Iād like to see Janeās reads before solidifying this into anything more. I also want to see how Nightingale treated Jane, but from memory she was pushing Luxy and Emilia/me as the last thing she did before lolcatting.
Sorry it took me so long to post. There was a lot of unexpected stuff going on irl, but the biggest hurdle here for me has been the fact that I subbed in at MyLo without actually reading the game and thinking it would be an easy win. I got a light first day since Night literally lolcatted in the thread and sealed herself as the optimal elimination, but I feel incredibly bad for taking this long to analyze the thread.
Gonna try to speed things up and turbo read whatever else is relevant, but I gotta leave now and switch to mobile, so Iām dumping this post in the thread before I go.
If thereās something thatās a priority for me to read, please just direct me to it so I donāt waste time. I didnāt think ISOing Zone would take an hour but I ended up reading a lot of D1 and D2 in the process and now thereās like an hour left in the day and I donāt want to fuck up by YOLO voting, so if you guys vote me out and we lose, itās entirely on me for doing basically nothing until this point.
gut and logic are telling me two different things and idk where to look to resolve it
Actually, the more I think about it, the less Zoneās treatment of Gorta looks like w/w because of that last thing I saw. But the mech conflict is really unsettling me and my no-action on N3 only points to an incorrect result but not why. Simplest explanation is literally just that itās gorta because logic, gut says itās Jane, and I really shouldāve gotten my act together earlier and read the thread since i committed to being in this game in the first place.
You know what, fuck it
If people are around I might as well just interact with them instead of wasting time backreading