PJO FM - 3/13 - Demigods (Town) Wins!

[Luxy]

Also I said zone was a likely candidate for wolf

[Jane]

@an_gorta_pratai did you track Zone again?

[Marluxion]

Actually completely irrelevant, because a wolf would want to distance also

I don’t want to know what you said in the past, I want to know your thought processes in getting there

[Jane]

Zone on Emilia

@Zone_Q11

Emilia has checks, and pushes on them.
Alice metareads Emilia as odd / not towny, because she’s not shitposting.

I don’t trust early checks. It smells like an agenda to get people’s reads rather than an actual check.
I don’t trust metareads. Period. Never liked 'em.

@Zone_Q11

Let me put it this way instead: I recently got mech!locked as scum because of what appears to be the exact same power that Emilia is claiming, i.e. Dreamer.

I ain’t going to get myself involved in that shit again. Even if those checks are legit, it just ruins my mood to go through the Dreamer bullcrap all over again.

@Zone_Q11

@Alice

She’s not claiming to be a psychic or anything like that.

Yeh. I can see that: She’s claiming Dreamer.
It’s the same bullcrap role that nuked scum in Paint Your Mafia.

@Alice

and has just been pushing a 0-poster she checked the entire game.

Her behavior’s wolfy and her claim’s bonkers. I don’t think she likely flips V here.

Eh. Fair enough. Let’s see where this goes.

/vote Emilia @Aelin @Mistyx

@Zone_Q11

@Alice

She’s claiming that she day checked Luxy/Marl/I and there’s a wolf in us

Oh. I didn’t read the fine print.
Okay, yeah. Fair enough.

@Zone_Q11

Hello. I have headache and I skipped ~600 posts because there’s too much to backread, especially when I have headache.

Why are there still people on Eli instead of Emilia?

@Zone_Q11

@Luxy

Emilia’s defence of pigeon definitely made some sense to me, I’m happy to back off this for now.

What was even her defense? What could possibly triumph over a day three-way parity cop?

@Luxy

Zone randomly coming out of the woodworks to defend Eli is weird

Imagine this:

• Sign up for a game
• Play the game for a couple hours
• Vote the player whose claim seems overpowered
• Be busy with literally anything else IRL for hours
• Return to the game with 600+ new posts and a headache
• See that Emilia is not top wagon, but instead some guy who was apparently voted because of his meta, and people sheeping Alice

@Zone_Q11

@Zone_Q11

What was even the point of claiming the BSOP role then?

@Luxy

Because its Emilia

…bruh. This is not an answer.

@Alice

Okay, I’ll give you an ultimatum.

A) Hard-lock into your check and die so we can resolve Marl/Luxy if it’s true being that you’re the most wolfy player here and your FPS-y tendencies makes me hesitant to actually believe it.

B) Claim it’s an FPS, rescind it, and play normally.

@Emilia

It was a fps

there happy now?

Wait, so it all ended just because of this?
Even as FPS, what did it actually do?
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@Zone_Q11

So what, she just gets a slap on the wrist and gets pardoned of her FPS? That is utter nonsense!

@Zone_Q11

@Emilia

@Emilia

There is at least 1 wolf in Marl/Luxy/Alice

This is a hardclaim. Not rescinding.

@Emilia

@Alice

…hard-hardclaim?

Don’t joke around with fake parity checks.

I am not joking. It is a hard-hardclaim.

What happened to this?

@Alice

Okay, I’ll give you an ultimatum.

A) Hard-lock into your check and die so we can resolve Marl/Luxy if it’s true being that you’re the most wolfy player here and your FPS-y tendencies makes me hesitant to actually believe it.

B) Claim it’s an FPS, rescind it, and play normally.

@Emilia

It was a fps
there happy now?

Wait, so it all ended just because of this?
Even as FPS, what did it actually do?

@Zone_Q11

But we don’t know for certain that Emilia is town. You guys are just enforcing meta to cover up bad play, which is all ‘everyone’ does as of late .

How to read Emilia? Read meta.
How to read Alice? Read meta.
How to read Eli? Read meta.

Bruh. Are we playing FM or are we going to live together in the same apartment, because this is basically “getting to know each other’s life, the game” at this point.

@Zone_Q11

@Luxy

Look, besides the bad FPS she has been very towny

Could you please give examples / quotes of such instances? When I ISO’d her, it was at least 60% filled with one-liners that seems neither impactful nor helpful at all.

@Luxy

Eli really isn’t being read on meta here, he’s being scumread because he’s doing nothing as I said before

Eh… Eeeh… He is seemingly out of the loop of anything outside his own wagon, so I’d say that’s fair enough.

@Zone_Q11

Well, I guess I am not part of everyone then. I’d rather still have Emilia over Eli. Maybe Silviu would be an alternative since his answer was shorter and less detailed than Jane’s.

@Zone_Q11

@Luxy

She just showed she can break her wolf meta in the game that just finished 5 mins ago

Hi @Emilia. Welcome to the group.

@Luxy

Fuck do I really have to put effort into reading Emilia now

FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

@Zone_Q11

@Wazza

they’re like

not playing how they played in Elf Gold Rush and I read them perfectly meta-wise in Elf Gold Rush

We just removed Emilia’s meta defense.
Why are you bringing up min’s meta defense!?
HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING AT ALL!?

@Zone_Q11

I admit sheeping Alice’s read, however that only applied for Emilia’s townread. As you already know, I don’t like meta reads at all, but I can’t do much against Emilia when she rescinded her parity cop claim. Everyone said it was normal for her to do that, and pushing it any further would mean that I was tunneling Emilia for no reason.

@Zone_Q11

–so no: I didn’t pretend Alice’s reads are my reads. My scumread on Emilia is MY READ.
Yes, I admit it started as a sheep-read, but it ended up becoming my own read.

It’s just that I can’t do anything with only one justification / argument against her, and everyone is literally flocking over to Eli (mainly) because of his meta.

I can’t even turn Emilia into D2’s CW since everyone is still hung up on her meta despite what recently happened in Meowtainado, so I had to settle with gorta since he is in the general POE alongside with me.

I mean… I could see this being W/W, I guess? Zone tunneling a teammate on policy because they claimed a role that they hated is technically possible, but we really shouldn’t lynch Emilia just for that.

Imo their defense of Pigeon was mildly villagery, but after that they dropped off hard. They’re PoE for sure but I wouldn’t lynch them today.

[Jane]

@Zone_Q11

I suddenly agree with Marl: Night is also a good alternative. I can’t understand anything from her wallpost, and it just seems like she went insane.

Luxy doesn’t seem to be any different than the others (i.e. min, Emilia, Marl), but I thought that today’s exe was supposed to be Eli, and maybe gorta if he doesn’t give any actual reason behind his flashreads.

Zone chainsawing Nightingale on Luxy here is a really terrible look for Luxy now that Zone’s flipped wolf.

[Jane]

Summary

@Luxy

Zone has annoyed me greatly in the past

Silviu I have almost no experience with

@Luxy

Zone randomly coming out of the woodworks to defend Eli is weird

@Luxy

Zone’s lack of knowledge regarding Emilia’s recension makes his actions make more sense

@Luxy

Zone - Slight Townlean

@Luxy

Zone - Slight Town

@Luxy

Townish:

Zone, Jane, min

@Luxy

Zone feels comfortable in thread I’ll give him that

@Luxy

Zone - Null, trending down

@Luxy

Hard-shielding Eli Day 1 and then flips hard:

@Zone_Q11

(I am not voting him, but…)

• Because of his scum meta where he freezes as wolf,
• Because he did not re-eval at N1 after what happened at D1, and
• Because he sheeped Jane’s read instead of giving a thought of his own before dipping to inactivity.

At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if a scumbuddy busses him. (Yes Wazza, this is a thought process I sheeped from Alice. The conclusion, at least.)

@Luxy

I find Zone hard to read tbh, I was just sheeping someone’s town read on him day 1.

Something about Zone making them laugh being impossible if Zone was a wolf. In hindsight, it is kinda weak

@Luxy

I just realised that this list leaves me with exactly 3 scum after my Wazza re-eval

Is the scumteam exactly Eli/Zone/gorta?

Eli and Zone definitely have partner equity has Zone spoken about gorta at all this game?

@Luxy

@Zone_Q11

Hi ‘here’, @Alice had a N0 redcheck on you. State your defense or die.

/vote an_gorta_pratai @Aelin @Mistyx

@Zone_Q11

Are you sure?

@Zone_Q11

(RIP. Why do I suck at RTs?)

(Oh hey. Jane is here.)

/unvote @Aelin @Mistyx

Oh yeah, Zone opened the game with a godawful reaction test on gorta

That’s some significant wolf equity right there

@Luxy

@Zone_Q11

I don’t trust early checks. It smells like an agenda to get people’s reads rather than an actual check.

???

@Luxy

@Zone_Q11

What am I even witnessing?

(A vote on Eli because he froze.)
How is this a thing?
(It just is.)
…
*freezes*

@Zone_Q11

Why are there still people on Eli instead of Emilia?

Defending Eli from the start of day 1.

@Zone_Q11

@EliThePsycho, I see your like.

You are here.
Please give me a summary.

Pinging a teammate to contribute? Is this a mistake wolf!zone makes?

@Zone_Q11

@Alice, why are you on Eli instead of Emilia?

@Zone_Q11

@Nightingale, why are you on Eli?

@Luxy

Zone randomly coming out of the woodworks to defend Eli is weird

I even picked up on this Day 1.

@Luxy

Meh I’m not sure I have the WiM to go through his entire ISO but the first quarter doesn’t look good if Eli flips wolf

@Luxy

I am proposing the scumteam is exactly Eli/Zone/Gorta

@Luxy

Can you quote that.

I am more sure on Eli and Zone being partnered than gorta with either two of them

@Luxy

I may consider it

I really wish we had a vigilante

I had a quick look at Zone’s ISO and the first quarter was pretty bad and I couldnt be fucked to do the rest. So if there was a case I could be convinced

Luxy’s scumread on Zone was almost entirely based on associations with Eli, specifically noting that Zone looked bad if Eli flipped wolf. They never actually push Zone or look at their posts individually (apart from the rEaCtIoNtEsT).

Then they come into today - with Zone having flipped wolf - immediately rolefishes Marl, says “I told you Zone was wolfy” and dip.

Looks like textbook distancing.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I forgot to do anything

[Jane]

[an_gorta_pratai]

I’m coming home in a few hours though

[Jane]

Eh… I suppose this isn’t terrible - if you have limited shots.

It would’ve been nice to know who Zone visited though.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I’m going to make this my last Hoo-Ra for a while

[min]

Dhhdbdbdjdj

[Nightingale]

nya

[Nightingale]

i accidentally clicked on the fanfiction subforum and i was confusedabout where this thread was for half a second

[Nightingale]

also i am suffering from my lack of ability to read wallposts

[Nightingale]

I agree that Luxy’s wolfread on zone isnt clearing
not sure i agree with the emilia stuff? i mean i hvent been able to actually bring myself to read any isos or big blocks of text but i dont see anything that looks like, not w/w?

nya

[Jane]

Emilia
Silviu
Luxy
Nightingale
min
gorta
Marluxion

I’m pretty confident we can hardclear Silviu, min, gorta and Marluxion here. (Least confident on gorta tbh)

That leaves

Emilia
Luxy
Nightingale
(Technically me)

And I’m pretty confident you’re a villager.

So that would mean Luxy/Emilia are the last two wolves. However, I do think there’s a real chance Eli was a wolf, so I’d rather get Luxy out first.

[Jane]

@Nightingale

i mean i hvent been able to actually bring myself to read any isos or big blocks of text but

I can probably condense my case on Luxy to a ~reasonable length later, but I’ll have to go for about half an hour soon.

[Nightingale]

I feel like Luxy/Eli probably doesnt exist because otherwise what the hell was luxy doin

uh
actually no it makes total sense to hardbus a partner that would land a death godfather
nya

[an_gorta_pratai]

I’m back now