Possessor Buff Ideas

Possessor, was supposed to be the NK that got the biggest benefit from the removal of dead interaction. However, it’s still the worst NK, due to the worst win rate at 7% (confirmed).

And now with the Noble Changes coming most likely in the next patch, Poss loses another potential fake claim, the Noble.

I think we should think about buffing the Possessor, and I have some ideas here.

Disclaimer: These are not only mine, some are also from others, including @NuclearBurrito @NightX @orangeandblack5

IDEAS

  1. Increase the uses of Possess back to 3 from 2

Possessor was really versatile with 3, as you could jump multiple times, leaving your old body when you felt you were becoming suspicious. This just increases the flexibility of the Possess ability, and it doesn’t feel like it’s a late-game crutch.

  1. Make Possess bypass healing

This isn’t an implausible idea, as the Reaper’s only night ability, Reap, always bypasses healing. However, Possess is a cornerstone to the Possessor, and without it, the jumping mechanic is harder to use.

  1. Include “Hidden Occupation Immunity”

Like the Mastermind, Possessor could also hide its occupy immunity, so that it can use more fake claims than just the average Hunter or Butler claims that most NK fall to.

  1. Some Day Ability to Cancel or Silence Votes

Reaper, even though it doesn’t have night or occupy immunity, has a higher win percentage because of its special abilities: Icy Touch and Gather Darkness. I feel that Possessor could also take advantage of an ability like that, to disrupt communication or action during the day.

So a proposed rework could be as follows:

So what Siphon Aura does is remove someone’s Royal Blood, Occupation Immunity, Poison and Bleed Immunity, and most importantly Night Immunity, but also prevents them from using Day Abilities. It may seem a bit OP, but this sort of flexibility could be what Possessor needs to be buffed.

Note: King’s Guards will still make a player whose aura was siphoned to be night immune.

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Does Possess NOT bypass healing? I know Puppet Strings doesn’t, but I thought Possess already did. If it doesn’t it definitely should.

I am in agreement that Possessor needs a buff, but I believe his current biggest threat is the King. Killing the king is next to impossible due to 6 guards. And even if he does, a new king get put up who gets 4 more guards. I think something that would go a long way for buffing Possessor is this:

Allow Possess to bypass night immunity, at the cost of not jumping bodies.

That might be a bit over complicated, but I think it’s incredibly important for the Reaper to have some win condition against King. As of right now, it’s just hope you can kill King in the sweet spot where a new King can’t be voted up, and then also hope no one can deduce you’re possessor.

I also think nerfing the King back to 4 guards will go a long way to buffing the possessor, but doesn’t solve the issue of a new king getting 4 more guards.

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Possessor jumping bodies is the whole point though.

Four King guards would be better.

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:+1: pretty good

Nice idea

No that’s a bit too OP maybe the first time it could appear like that

Agreed

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What if there’s a day ability that changes so Possess bypasses night immunity that night instead but doesn’t actually swap bodies?

Honestly. An Ability that could accomplish a similar effect but more unique is the ability to disable day Ability’s.

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I’m gonna make a proposed Possessor, comment on it?

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I kinda agree with Nuke tbh

since immunity is such a problem for possessor, just make a day ability that takes a use of possess but bypassess everything. also give him 3 uses of possess

How’s this?

I like it a lot, though I’d combine facelift with possess

There’s not a lot of time for that to happen during the night, choosing a class and a player to kill. Or would there be?

And now how’s it

Also you @NuclearBurrito

It is perfect now

It is?

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he/she is, is prolly what I should have said xd

I love this. It actually makes fakeclaiming as a current Noble viable for the Possessor while also making the jump into the King a safe move. I’d also add 3’s effect to Blackened Shield as it’ll stop Butlers and Drunks from outing you. (I would actually also do this to Sorcerer as Drunks and Butlers should not have such strong investigative potentials that they can out the NK.)

Though, here are a few suggestions from me for the new Possessor in regards to whispering.

A) Puppet Strings: Players who have been controlled during any previous night will have their whispers shown to the Possessor.

OR

B) Driven: Now allows the Possessor to read all whispers.

A buff from the current Puppet Strings in order to match the new Noble. By late-game the Possessor shouldn’t have much troubles finding at least one whisper due to A’s Puppet Strings, or B at any phase of the game, and thus a Noble fake-claim would still be viable. Reading whispers is necessary for the Possessor as otherwise Possess could be easily countered by the reading past whispers/password tactic. Plus, the current whisper meta can be mitigated or even countered if any Evil with a reliable whisper-reading ability is added.

And another part relating to royalty.

C) Possess: The Possessor will gain Royal Blood if their target was originally royalty.

This is essentially a way to prevent auto-confirmation via stepping up or outing the Possessor if they possessed a royalty. Plus, also allows more depth for Possessor>Psycho King strategies

GENius

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@NightX

Do you have anything to say for this?

All seems good

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