Prince should be vulnerable to HH

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#161

That just means Party is the absolute here then. :wink:

#162

Prince is too good for the alcohol.

Therefore, he is immune to hh.

#163

Why is that possibility exciting? Having the king guard someone and make them death immune is interesting, because generally scum roles are death immune and it opens up claim space. This possibility does nothing like that.

I can only envision even more obscure scenarioā€™s with framing Prince as Possessor, because he did not execute.

I guess Iā€™m answering my own objections, but I never said that I was strongly against this to begin with.

#164

Since hh removes all immunities and conversion immunity is a type of immunity couldnā€™t if planned right prince be converted since their conversion immunity would be stripped from them for a night, in theory

#165

Therefor converted Sellsword when? (aka: the most redundant class ever)

#166

Well, with your change,
Alcholic > Prince

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#167

Also I would be mad angry if I am executing the mastermind with 1 execute left to win the game because then me and bd king could vote up the other unseen and the alcoholic hhā€™s me and I lose a charge. If that is the case prince shouldnā€™t lose charges.

#168

I can agree with that.

#169

I canā€™t. That argument can be used with every other limited ability that isnā€™t investigative

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#170

Fair

#171

TOS jailor doesnā€™t lose users of executes my dude.

#172

No execute is a very strong ability and losing uses is a very big deal

#173

what about no one loses uses from being occupied

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#174

Neither did ToS vigilante

#175

But knight has unlimited cs so it evens out

#176

Ah but Hunter doesnā€™t have unlimited wolves

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#177

Or bears but thatā€™s less important in this context

#178

Wait do you still believe that drunk needs a nerf? Drunk is fine, the only change it needs it needs is reworking happy hour so it isnā€™t just a better serve wine. And possibly giving it a day immunity bypasser.

Balance > lore

The same can happen with other abilities. Balance shouldnā€™t be done around rage.

Why should prince be an exception just because of rage?

You shouldnā€™t compare ToS to ToL. They are very different.

Thatā€™s why it should be able to lose uses from HH though. Execute needs counterplay, and strong isnā€™t the same as overpowered.

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#179

Here is what I think what Happy Hour does: it only remove certain immunities for the night, but doesnā€™t actually occupy the player unless itā€™s coordinated with that class ability from different player

So youā€™re aaying it doesnā€™t work even with that?

#180

immunity bypass is happy hour?