orange liked my posts, I feel accomplished tbh
also this game is going swimmingly, aka this is the worst game I have ever made
im designing setups right now and failing horribly
can someone suggest a common setup that I can run
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sure
do you have any preferences for amount of players/relevance of PRs/open vs. semi-open/-sidedness
i mean
i have preferences
but
i also donât really have any idea when it comes to setup balance
so
ok
what are your preferences
even if theyâre just things like âI donât want it to have copsâ or âI want it to be between 13 and 15 playersâ or âI want some sort of protective abilityâ that would be helpful in narrowing down potential setups
if your preferences are ridiculous/not all satisfiable Iâll just tell you that
I want people to tell me that the setup was fun to play
honestly thatâs it
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that one is harder to satisfy, realistically whether people enjoy the game mostly isnât a function of the setup unless the setup is really egregiously bad
you can have the best setup in the world, and if day 1 gets derailed by a player insulting everyone who doesnât agree with their reads, and then night 1 a town vigilante shoots another town PR, and also half the players donât meet the post minimum and get force-replaced, people probably wonât enjoy it
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Also can someone tell me what 8.BITL means
Are those the nuclear launch codes for America or something
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okay
Iâm just going to list out a few setup ideas + pros and cons and you can tell me if any of them are vaguely what youâre looking for
disclaimer: a few of these are controversial /bad
Option 1
13 players
1x Town Tracker
1x Town Innocent Child
8x Vanilla Townie
1x Mafia Rolecop
1x Mafia 1-shot Ninja
1x Mafia Goon
the rolecop can carry the kill alongside their night action
I stole this setup from a single column of a matrix game, some of the columns were kind of unbalanced which is why I didnât lift the whole matrix.
Pros:
- itâs been run at least once before and was reasonably balanced (the game went to f3 despite the innocent child getting misexeâd)
- Tracker is a ~reasonable power-level PR in the setup, it doesnât get really good until only 1 wolf is dead but it can get useful information without being brokenly strong
- The wolf PRs are strong enough to matter but not strong enough that if one of them rands to an obvious wolf the team is just screwed
Cons:
- Innocent Child is kind of a boring role, and its strength is heavily dependent on who randed it
- The power of the tracker once two wolves are dead is heavily dependent on what order the wolf PRs die in
Option 2: Mad17
For 17 players
Setup is kind of complicated, see this thread
Pros:
- Everyone is a PR, which is cool if youâre into PRs
- Itâs been run several times â it did trend wolfsided, but it was being run in a wolf-favored environment, and itâs rarely going to be heavily -sided
Cons:
- Everyone is a PR, which is bad if you donât want the game to be dominated by mechanics
- a lot of people hate the setup
- a lot of people think itâs wolfsided, which is less true than they think it is, but will probably fuel salty villager complaints if town loses
- the setup is kind of swingy depending on which side rands which PRs.
Option 3
15 players
12x Vanilla Townies
3x Mafia Goons
Pros:
Cons:
Option 4
For 14 players
1x Town Doctor (*cannot target the same player consecutively, cannot self-target)
10x Vanilla Town
3x Mafia Goon
Pros:
- Wolves canât just blindly SPK whoever they want
- PR play is relevant without being the dominant consideration
- Doc only needs to get 1 save for their role to âmatterâ
Cons:
- Some amount of swing if the doctor dies night 1
- If wolves really want someone dead they have to risk giving town an extra elimination
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