Random Assortment of Suggestions

  • As Soulcatcher, please don’t let one of the souls randomly choose King as a target. Yes, the King is a Special class type. No, you didn’t help at all you little piece of junk soul. Randomness is lame enough, but when it hits the King it feels especially bad.

  • Allow the Illusionist to erase EVERYBODY’S chat history. Erasing a single player’s history is a fantastic idea in my opinion, but is very, very underwhelming. It’s unique and cool and I dig it. But I’d rather have the public announcement ability instead of this so that getting converted as a Psychic isn’t an insta-lynch the next day.

  • Replace Black Wine with…anything. It doesn’t do anything but allow for a few giggles. It confirms a Butler’s presence, but it also doesn’t accomplish much. If a Scum is Black Wined, then they have an excuse not to contribute to discussion or give a proper defense.

  • Remove Alchemist’s Blur because it is basically auto-win when you are a neutral who can confirm themselves 100%. BD never hangs Alchemist claims and evils never waste a night killing Alchemist claims. Easy ELO.

  • Add a discussion during King elections. If neither candidate confirmed themselves before the election, it’s basically a game of chance on who to pick. I’d like to hear them sell themselves on why they should be King.

  • If you send a message during a period of time where they aren’t allowed (Defense of the Accused, King Elections), please do not let it send upon hitting Enter! Just let it sit there so you don’t have to retype the same message once your time to talk comes again.

Just some random thoughts. That Soulcatcher suggestion is what really prompted this post. PLEASE CHANGE THAT.

I agree 80000% with everything here. They are mostly small quality or life issues but they are all badly needed.

Keep Illusionist to one person, but add PA?

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okay
a lot of these are about things that i dont see in the clean role list
what is alchemist’s blur?
when did illusionist become able to erase anyones chat history?

Those are in the normal throne of lies and not forum of lies.
Alchemist blur makes someone’s screen blurry for some time,
and illusionist can erase chat history.

ok, thanks

  1. Neutrals seem dangerous to the castle even when confirmed, 'cause they don’t have to win with the BD.
  2. Ummm, ELO??? This isn’t ToS. According to the devs, we’ll most likely not get a ranked system (unless they change their mind of course)

No the devs said they wanted a ranked.

Which I think is a bad idea but hey

@TryphonX Yeah, xBlade confirmed this.

Alchemists aren’t dangerous to BD at all. Like you said, this isn’t ToS where you insta lynch survivor claims. Alchemist can win the game for BD outright. They are more BD aligned than scum aligned in every game because they don’t know who scum is, so they might accidentally help BD anyway even if they try their hardest to make them lose.

I’m pretty sure Bos denied it some time ago, but oh well they may have changed their mind.

Honestly I wish they hadn’t

I cannot see a ToL Ranked mode going or ending well

Vampires in ToS is such a big problem already too…

Don’t get me wrong - I really enjoy the conversion mechanic.

I just don’t think it is fair. Fun, but not fair.

not fun either

Wow. All of these were added

ayyyy

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The problem with ELO is that gamethrowing becomes a bigger problem.

If players don’t really lose/gain anything from following the rules of conversion related gamethrowing, they will likely follow them. However, if you have the classic 1 MM 1 assassin 1 neut king and 1 butler with parties left, AND they gain points for game-throwing (not throwing party), then people will be much more likely to throw the game when it comes to conversion