Anyone who thinks eli is incapable of posting or not freezing as scum needs to go read this game
His opener in this game IMMEDIATELY pinged me of his opener in that game but I couldn’t discuss it until now
hmm
i forgot i had a meta in that game
(help this has such bad implications)
With that being said I do actively wolfread mist and it kinda felt like they were tmi’ing eli as town
my opener in this game
my opener in botf
A quick note about Clocktower theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else’s time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.
I’ve reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.
I am hard-claiming, and I will never be rescinding. I am the Fortune Teller. When it becomes prudent I will provide my peeks.
Benefits:
- I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the Fortune Teller. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the Fortune Teller cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The evil team have already been outplayed, as it were.
- I’m lock clear: All of you already know I’m lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a demon. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to be a demon in that I’ve ever played in (except for teensies). I have no need to complicate my life, as a demon, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level demon game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a demon, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I know that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a demon play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not **** up and execute me. Makes my life super awesome. 3. There are only 11 players you need to try to read, rather than 12: I have already provided a “free” peek of me in a game with a mere 13 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game. Conclusion: The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the fortune teller, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.
Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion. It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns. It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I’m “neutral” or “evil.” That is legitimately stupid, and I won’t entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a demon is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for demon-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They’re universes apart. That means I wouldn’t DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, demon-me also wouldn’t BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game demon I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a demon is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline demon EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my demon life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation demon lives in Clocktower history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely evil and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game. Sucks for the evil team when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.
@GGhana if amelia uses it i get to use it
i see how these are similar
oshit is this an HK in ICTM moment
I have no strong thoughts yet but I think regardless of her alignment, too much early pressure could make if difficult for her to get into the game. She did have one post that felt extremely caught-for-the-wrong-reasons-ey but that’s all I noticed that felt off from her.
what’s that suppsoed to mean
An opener isn’t just one post it’s your whole first sequence of posts
Misty was marking you as town just for your willingness to post but you clearly demonstrate in that game you’re more than capable of doing it as both alignments
An opener isn’t just one post it’s your whole first sequence of posts
fair enough
shit ngl brother thats kinda villagery from my boy marl
heck
me and the bois at 2am havin laggy internet
where were we
Icibalus:3. Which player would have the best chance in a fight to the death against Gordon Ramsay? Choose between:
based
Icibalus:
- Which is your favourite star sign? Choose between:
where is cancer smh
based
i was gonna vote you
hello gorta
these are my first five posts
i see no similarities here, other than they’re silly
Getting out of bed
im inbetween ‘thats a super villa thought process from Marl’ and ‘Marl knows I’d townread this’
but im reading the Eli ISOs now and yeah he’s right that Eli can post as scum and not look too uncomfortable
don’t particularly think Eli is wolfin atm (hes a nullboi tbhtbh) but the outdated meta argument is indeed true
It more or less just had a similar vibe
I think it’s probably nai and I do think mist possibly tmi’d you town but I can’t ignore the gut feelings I got from it earlier
i see…
TL speak of the devil I was just about to talk about how I couldn’t get a read on you from your posts earlier