Return Of The Darkness Upick - Game Over - well that happened i guess

Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
ATNoName Zone_Q11, EliThePsycho, katze, an_gorta_pratai 4/8
EliThePsycho Mistyx, Chloe, Marluxion 3/8
SirDerpsAlot Marshal, Nightingale 2/8
Jane SirDerpsAlot 1/8
katze Arete 1/8
Marluxion PokemonKidRyan 1/8
Marshal ATNoName 1/8
Not Voting Jane, sulit 3

D2 ends at 2021-04-11T17:00:00Z.

Why do you tr them

D1 vote on Windward.

Let’s be honest here, you still want me dead because of that one thing I can’t even control.

Without it, your argument boils down to “not enough effort” (Gorta) or just straight up “I don’t like you” (Zone).

For “not enough effort”, your definition of effort means the capability to case, make reads, and convince (based on context I have seen). This is something a powerwolf could easily do given enough experience and time. I’d like to remind you that Mafia can be played as a team game where you decide who to trust and who to not. While I’d originally want a game where after enough talking, we (town) all collectively (within seconds) yeet scum after scum, it’s clear you don’t want that or you don’t want to do that way.

For the “I don’t straight up like you”, no one even I can make everyone happy. You should know this and while I still think instinct is a good starting point, that being your sole reason is kinda of a :eyes:.

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The vote isn’t at all clearing imo

They have still not done what I’d expect them to do as a Villager, and I also doubt they’re going to do it when they get back.

The council of Jane rules this to be a fake post by Arete.

Given that Apprentice’s slot is currently the top wagon and they aren’t defending them, I think the back-track here is wolfy.

At EoD, instead of reading the top wagon, they skim the non-wolf sidewagon.

I believe this to be wolfy because several people were expressing concern that Derps could be Town, which they even responded to (but did not agree/disagree with):

They also tried to save Wind when they saw that their wagon was gaining traction, despite having nort ead either of them.

I think this is a thought a wolf is more likely to have, especially given that they think katze is wolfy. Also, if kat were a wolf, I think they could reasonably fake that “reactiontest”.


They don't do anything with their scumread on kat

They believe the reasons why Chloe townreads kat are incorrect, but still do not push them.

Even though they have mechanical information that makes their only wolfread more likely to be a wolf, they do not do anything with it.

Keeping in mind that Arete only has 1 wolfread, I find this response very wolfy. They do not express the same concern as Chloe. This feels to me like “Hey look I scumread kat! I’m doing things!!” when they aren’t actually doing anything with it. This attitude is unlikely to come from a villager.

Like, even though they towncored 3 people that are consensus PoE (which should indicate that wolves are likely miscleared), they still refuse to push their only wolfread any further than ‘haha kat wolf’


It does not feel at all like Arete is actually trying to find wolves. Even when they find another plausible wolf, they don’t do anything with it.

Even if I take into consideration “Arete thinks Chloe’s read on katze is better than theirs and doesn’t want to push kat because of it”, they are still voting kat, so they don’t care enough about Chloe’s read on kat to vote someone else. They also said that the reasons Chloe is townreading kat for are NAI and are calling kat a wolf at every opportunity they get, which leads me to believe they just don’t want to look bad for actually pushing kat.

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Who is my 3rd non-Gorta non-Villager read?

Find out on the next episode of Jane™.

Okay I may not currently have one

But every time I try to convince myself Marshal is Town it feels very wrong.

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/Vote Arete

ive been over this like four times

it absolutely is

Interesting

Did you see my earlier stuff about Jane and why I don’t think the vote is clearing @Zone_Q11

I don’t agree :joy_cat:

if jane and windward want to distance the one bussing the other is going to be wind who had KP and greater thread presence

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I don’t disagree that it’s not like the most ideal but I don’t think it’s clearing.

Catching up part 1:
First 250 or so posts had nothing too special. As Min, the first owner of this slot said.
I just get null reads basically.

If I was forced to gutread from there then I’d go for Mist town? Maybe Chloe town?
And if I had to dart throw a scum member in there (baring in mind that Wind has flipped mafia so I cannot choose that) I would go for Marshal?

Just sorta pops in, does a RVS vote which is fair.
But eh, nothing to make me go “This is town” at that point (Approx 250 posts in)

The vote isn’t completely clearing but janes posts are towny

It’s not on a level of a wolf would never do this to another wolf it’s on the level of it’s not the most ideal play but could still work

I also mostly disagree with this lol

Unless this is meta cuz I don’t really have any meta on Jane

@Jane why does wolf arete push the ‘derps is spewed clear’ agenda?