Return Of The Darkness Upick - Game Over - well that happened i guess

@DatBird @Icibalus

did anyone have anything they actually want to discuss

In my opinion

The people that are not derps that I want to kill are zone ā†’ marl ā†’ arete, roughly in that order.

Marl realistically has the least going for him

and tbh his pushes and play is incredibly erratic.

He randomly changed votes at multiple EoDs without warning

Heā€™s thrown out very wild tinfoils on people I read strongly as villager

I still think heā€™s town, which makes this toughTM, but I canā€™t do anything abt it. atm.

Maaybe gorta somewhere in there
ugh
forgot he existed

I can probably semi-confirm Gorta tonight

afaict he is claiming:

  • not to have a night ability
  • to be able to do exactly one of ā€˜killā€™ and ā€˜protectā€™

and I think there are relatively few wolf roles that meet that criterion and are consistent with how the game has gone

maybe some sort of uberconditional dayvig

Arete has good posting and decent mechanics going for them.

But, like, if derps is wolf (which I think is very likely at the moment) their play is just incredibly wolfsided throughout the entire game, and they refused to listen to people they had as villagers when they challenged that worldview. I could see them as going full on powerwolf. They say ā€˜I donā€™t defend partners that arenā€™t tryingā€™ but iirc derps was one of the highest d1 posters and argued hard to live, and at that point the min/centuries slot was not likely to endgame so it makes sense for w!arete to defend w!derps and keep him in the game. And after making a series of post calling derps obviously spewed villager, you canā€™t really just back down when derps stops trying.

Zone has gone above and beyond this game, but heā€™s ā€˜broken his metaā€™ many times before. I cannot call him a villager off of meta, and his pushes and takes are just impossible to clear off of.

If derps is wolf, wind and derps (+1, most likely) were all in the thread and could kill zone and blame it entirely on me (arete and derps did vote zone so, like, I guess arete could be +1).

A lot of my takes are wildly preflipping derps but Iā€™m gamer like that.

Deal with it

I think today we just kill zone.

Itā€™s very unlikely mafia have any roleblocking power so one of jane/night dies tonight realistically

Probably just jane.

@an_gorta_pratai

can you please confirm this

@Marshal

can you walk me through your reasons for thinking litlit is V

if I can lock that slot in it would help a lot

@Chloe

If we end up killing not Arete today can you promise not to JoaT9?

Ok so like realistically

I donā€™t think she goes out of her way to fake the annoyance.

I know I said, like, exactly this about min, but sulit has throughout the game constantly gotten pissy at people wolfreading her or treater her (from her perspective) unfairly.

Like sheā€™s been consistently very passive aggressive throughout the entire game, in a way that doesnā€™t feel like ā€˜Iā€™m a wolf frustrated at losing the game, let me channel that annoyance to look townieā€™, an more like a genuine "People are ignoring me and my top wolfread is consistently belittling my pushes and will probably try to CFD me

On top of this her posting has been, like, consistently pretty wimmy? Today was a drop (but tbf it was for the whole thread), and iā€™d never clear her off of this alone, but I think sheā€™s out of the ā€˜classic sulit wolf metaā€™ even if I donā€™t really believe in it.

Liked a few things in her wallpost.

Centuries consistently tried to shut down my v reads on that slot in a way that felt straight up opportunistic and sulitā€™s handling of centuries himself was, like, fine? Hesitantly saying ā€œI think heā€™s wolf but heā€™d get mad at me if I said itā€ isnā€™t really the way a wolf handles a partner in that situation? Itā€™s noncommittal but openly so but I donā€™t think someone of her experience really handles it that way.

Her thunderdoming of PKR is realistically straight up not accidental. PKR was very blatantly trying to set himself and sulit up as w/w (although because I canā€™t see into his brain this has less stock than it seems).
Wolves putting a fakeclaim in thread would at least check if it didnā€™t mess with a partnerā€™s claim. They COULD be w/w, going for a thunderdome instead of letting derps die, but it doesnā€™t make sense especially because I could have, like, not gone over.

Wind vote is also a good look if I didnā€™t say that already

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Vote Count

Accused Voters Number
SirDerpsAlot Zone_Q11, Mistyx, Marshal, an_gorta_pratai 4/6
Arete Jane, Marluxion, sulit 3/6
Zone_Q11 Nightingale, Chloe, Arete 3/6
[Not voting] SirDerpsAlot 1

Iā€™m marginally okay with arete dying.

However would prefer zone atm even if Iā€™m having my own doubts?

@Chloe last time I was an IC i cfdā€™d off of tied w/w wagons onto a village appelsiini with 2 minutes left in the ay

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i feel like arete/derps is probably the best move here because i think like

fairly high odds of 1 wolf between them, just off of setup stuff?

but i dont think two

Voted Voters Number of Votes
Derps Zone, Mist, Marshal, Gorta 4/6
Arete Jane, Marl, Sulit 3/6
Zone Nightingale, Chloe, arete 3/6
Not Voting Derps 1

@ me for errors and new votes or u dont get Vote counts. Should be here til eod