if both are announced i care significantly less about who we yeet today until i know whether its 1v7 or 2v6
I mean
I doubt heās a wolf but we could policy gorta just so he isnāt the game ending ml
we should look at all the eod vcs
if derps successfully used his ability someoneās vote should be fucked up somewhere unless they darkvoted the same player two nights in a row
and by we i mean me since iām apparently the only one who cares enough to put in the legwork this game
okay no votes were changed that i can tell
meaning derps used his ability correctly approximately 0 times which is actually hilarious
probably hit a non-darkvoter d1 and someone who was darkvoting the same target as their d4 vote d3
@Mistyx anyway the reason i ask if you could tell the number of darkvoters on derps when he died was because i should have redirected chloeās darkvote onto him
him having 4 darkvotes would prove my claim legitimate
I stop the person with the most votes on the dark votecount from visiting my target
N1 chloe
N2 katze
Dude marl
if you have multiple people telling you that you are behaving in an extremely frustrating, selfish, and anti-town way
listen to at least one of us for christās sake.
5v12 is actually out of the question.
Like
Take literally any 17p.
Unless there is significant significant mechanical power in favor of town, 5v12 is crazy numbers because it affords only 3 mislynches in a game with 5 mafia.
There is not significant significant mechanical power in favor of town. Wolves had killpower, and a large presence of disruptive roles.
I know that youāre gonna do the words dumbest shit and go āLolllllllllllllllll!!! Marshal is just saying this because chloe and her are w/wā
@Mistyx Iām certain can back me up on this
Hell
@arete will back me up on the fact that the game is literally never 12v5 with the town roles that have flipped if they donāt want to use this as an opportunity to just say iām mafia.
Your play is literally the worlds most selfish play iāve seen in my entire mafia career
Iāve seen the worst of the worst hero shots, time and time again.
PKR shooting mist in wild west isnāt even close. He at least bothered to let thread know he was doing it and he also had the excuse of being drunk.
You got none of this babe. Youāre refusing to listen to people and acting like an insane conspiracy theorist. I know this is going to come off as an insult, and let me make it clear, it completely is an insult to your play this day phase if you are town because hoooooly shit.
But you have to listen to me. Iām going to create a mechanical plan and try to get it signed off by 3 or 4 other people, garunteeingg half of the game and at LEAST two villagers (and realistically 3 in all words) agree that this plan is the most mechanically optimal.
If you refuse to listen after that then I simply do not know what to say.
Marl is not going to move darkvotes off of himself. This is because:
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We are at an even number of players. If 1 player is eliminated and 1 player is factional killed, we will reach a final four. In the final four, with no HARD mechanical clears (as much as I believe there are two of them), town is incentivized to sleep and force wolves to kill someone and lower the PoE. This allows them to choose who they want in final 3, meaning they will bring the 2 villagers likeliest to be suspected.
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This means that killing you here does nothing but deny wolves that chance. You have no negative mechanical power towards the mafia team, and are effectively a VT. This is basic mafia theory
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āWhy canāt we just have night to choose to poison someone else?ā. For two reasons. First off, we simply cannot garuntee that there will be enough darkvotes on a player to do that. Mafia can easily kill mistyx, someone who is a consensus villager and a darkvoter. The only way we would have enough is your ability, chloeās ability, and my vote. Thatās on incredibly thin ice to deny wolves the choice of f4.
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This also means night cannot track tonight, which is taking away our mechanical abilities just to reassign the poison, putting it on the thinnest ice and DIRECTLY into a final 3 should it work. I donāt care how villagery you think you are, we must do this. I would do it if the poison were on me, no cap. I donāt see how you canāt.
For these reasons, marl absolutely cannot move the darkvote off of himself. Chloe can straight up hold that effort hostage by refusing to put a darkvote on anyone but marl, if she wants to. But Iām not relying on that.
@Chloe
@sulit
@Mistyx
@Nightingale
I want each of you to read this and sign off on this if you believe it to be true.
If every one of them signs off on this, you have a majority of villagers (or half if you are somehow tinfoiling 6v2 in la la land) telling you why you have to do this.
There is no excuses if everyone I pinged signs off on this. The argument will be over and you will be treated as an openwolf and killed day 6 with no mercy. If you are town, it is no fault but your own selfishness for refusing to comply. Iāve laid it out very clearly.
Your move
(and for the record, if @Chloe does decide to say āI flat-out refuse to move the darkvote onto anyone but marlā, then marl becomes the only possible poison we CAN get and any argument for moving the poison becomes null and void and it becomes actual borderline throwing to do anything else but allow marl to die. I am not forcing her to do this but I am bringing the idea to light because she does have that negotiating power)
Now I still think we should kill arete.
Arete is by far the wolfiest player in the game, even with marls posts making me want to pour boiling water into my eyes.
I may impose the thunderdome outright. I think myself (lol), sulit, mist, gorta, chloe, marl (dies to poison anyways), and nightingale are all faaaaaaaaar villagerier than them, despite what people say about arete being wrong and villager.
wait
factional canāt be performed alongside other actions
so if there is only one wolf thatāll become obvious later
also that means derps has been the one performing the factional this entire time
dont care, didnāt ask
if i decide itās +ev to die, iāll die
if i dont, i wonāt
period