Return Of The Darkness Upick - Game Over - well that happened i guess

im probably going to vote sulit
they look to me like theyre grasping for reasons not to thunderdome PKR
which is a wolfy mindset

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PKR is doing the exact same thing though

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even if i think its a more genuine mindset

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pkrs later posts completely invalidate my above read
hhhhhhhhhhh

i still think sulit is wolfy for it but requires more evaluation

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But like, I don’t think this should be in essence a thunderdome.
I want others to flip before Sulit does because I believe her. I just do.

If we ever flip something which messes with dark votes, dark voters, investigatives… or is a rolecop/investigative for mafia then I’m going to basically have her in my lock-clears

I cannot think of a single role that anyone but you could have to mess with that result

Then someone is lying about their claim then.
Or someone has more to it than they’ve admitted.

No **** Sherlock. :unamused:
That’s what we’ve been saying ever since sulit claimed.

There is a difference check between you and sulit

By refusing to acknowledge this, you are actively damaging town’s win chance in any world where you are a villager and sulit is a wolf, which is incredibly likely at this point

And you have no reason to believe this other than your own personal read

Quite frankly, if you are a villager here, you are holding the game hostage because you are so confident you’re right

This is legitimately worse than any hero vig shot

If you are a villager, this is borderline gamethrowing

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Yes, but others are saying the liar has to be me or sulit.
And I’ve presented ways where it doesn’t has to be either of us.

If sulit is genuinely what she claims to be, which I believe she is, I’m saving an ā€œI told you soā€ for post game

Well what do I do then?
Just accept it’s a thunderdome despite believing it’s not?
To vote someone I’m townreading?

Yes

Because there is hard mechanical evidence pointing towards that

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At least try to find and push wolves outside of the thunderdome

Instead of voting yourself and hard shielding a player who you functionally have a red check on

okay so heres my refined read
PKRs mindset makes sense coming from a villager and from a wolf
As a wolf, they don’t want to be thunderdomed. Easy.
As a villager, it makes total sense to reject thunderdoming one of their townreads when they’ve been burned by mechanics many times over in many previous games. PKR states this is the case, and works off of this. It doesn’t look panicked or desperate, but it could be construed as agenda.
Yes it’s very unlikely someone would mess with the result, but it’s not unreasonable for V!PKR to think this after a situation like Spak/Light in Umineko 2 sucked up thread air for 2 full in-game days.

Sulit was struggling out of the thunderdome with their first posts, trying to say that ā€œwhat if PKR isn’t a darkvoterā€ and ā€œwhy would w!PKR block gorta.ā€
I… can’t see a way to justify this mindset as a villager. It just looks like a perspective slip.

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Technically it is possible that you two are V/V if there is a redirector who redirected you for some reasons beyond me. But Occam’s Razor tells me: ā€œNah. It’s either PKR or sulit. End of discussion.ā€

What’s the worth of your townread when their claim contradicts yours?
Surely you aren’t going to tell me that you would townread someone who you have redchecked?

I’m fucking losing my mind rn.
/Unvote

We need to look for wolves outside of me/sulit because I guess this is my next best thing which Mist pointed out.

/vote sulit @icibalus @datbird

I’m trying to make sure I’m not making mistake

Mistake or misinterpretation here could possibly mean 2 villagers dying and i dont really want that to be my fault because i fucked up or something

so im trying to think of other possibilities besides pkr is lock scum

i understand contradiction but im looking at other things too

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