Return Of The Darkness Upick - Game Over - well that happened i guess

I will get back to you I am watching a show with my mom

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yeah but then i stopped

I’m going to do ISOs on misty/eli/marl/night, my ‘these are just a villager but poooossssibly not’ tier

With the goal of moving them up if possible

that’s my task for the next howevermany hours, may take a while.

someone tell me who to iso thats relevant so i can do stuff while not doing stuff

Derps (counterwagon from yesterday)
Marl (poisoned :upside_down_face:)
AppYBWname (contentious openwolf slot)
Jane (pick this one if you want to be lazy and just Iso the living player with the fewest posts across all slots)

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Chloe (Wind spew)
Katze (confident chloe read)

gorta (everyone just seems confident he’s town so shrug)
Eli (also read leach :joy_cat: if live later game look back at iso because i feel like some of the ways he interpreted posts were kind of weird like he wasn’t actually thinking through his reads? sulit bad at explain)

Zone (in town meta, haven’t been pinged, seems fine, not enough to move up tho, if marshal flip wolf id say townier)
Night (haven’t really paid much attention to night since they pinged me d1, poison claim seemed towny and leeching read off what other people have said in thread about them)
Mist (honestly I don’t rememeber Mist that much and I want to iso them to get a more confident read but im tired and already did marshal. here for their Wind vote mostly.

Jane (Wind vote keeps out of direct POE, haven’t done anything I remember as specifically villagery or wofly)
Marl (Wind vote keeps them out of direct POE, Marl hasn’t done anything that specifically pings me but I feel like as village I just, notice Marl more? He doesn’t seem to have the same sort of spark.)
ATNoName (I still think the Apprentice openwolf thing was towny, but theres not much else the slot has done to move them out of here)

Marshal (Ok, so I went through Marshal’s iso just now and I pulled a bunch of quotes. Realistically, Marshlal’s wolfgame is really good and I don’t know why poeple are giving her such easy clears, especially Chloe considering she seems more scared of Derp’s wolfgame than Marshals? No offense Derps. I found thingz that could be potentially wolfy, but I’d really like Derp’s flip to be able to solve Marshal because if it flips scum I’ll be way less concerned. However it feels like marshal is like, oppurtunistically dropping people in her POE or not reading people in order to be able to push them later on. Her read flip on me felt weird and her Zone push eod also felt weird given there was like, no explanation behind it whatsoever. Also, her treatment of Wind D1 was kinda SUS bro, she never commmited to a read on Wind and she never really mentioned Wind much at all. Addionally her min read feels kinda weird? I don’t think min got mad enough for her to clear her for it, and i swear i remmeber min getting just as angry as wolf. Wolf Derp flip - leave alone for a bit probably, town Derp flip - look into harder. )
Derps (I think Wind spew is towny and I townread him D1, but I trust Marshal’s judgement on the slot if he’s town and I think the flip would be helpful overall
arete (just not townier than everyone else, I feel like these reads frusterate people but I just haven’t seen anything from either arete or TL to move them above anyone higher)
minturies (same as above)

I feel inherently unhappy with this list but i already made it and dont feel like moving stuff around :joy_cat:

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I’m having a hard time understanding the relative position of sulit’s reads (as in, I’m having a hard time understanding why she would consider [a] a stronger reason to townread [A] than [b] a reason to townread [B], for … a lot of the people on her list)

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like as an example

I know I’m probably biased but I feel like if you haven’t seen anything from me that’s townier than ‘literal openwolving’ then … you are doing something wrong …

and I’d apply that to probably all of the people she has as below AppYBWName? like even before I factor in YBW/ATNo’s play, like:

Marshal’s been falling for me based just on how differently we see the game but I’ve found the moments of villageriness that I did see from her to be more villagery than ‘literal openwolving’

I think ‘the dead wolf spent basically the second half of yesterday trying as hard as possible to kill her’ is townier than ‘they openwolved’

I thought his response to kat’s claim was super villagery, definitely moreso than, again, ‘literal openwolving’

now a lot of that can boil down to ‘sulit thinks the openwolving was townier than I do/sulit applies less weight to the relative lack of presence or content from YBW/ATNo’

but it’s not just that read

her 2/3/4 are all based around sheeping other people, 2 I can sort of understand if you start from the assumption that Chloe has a soulread, but 3 is semi-disputed and 4 is … even more disputed than 3? and also, that would suggest that she’s less confident in her second-strongest non-sheeping reason to clear someone than in three reads that are just sheeping, which seems weird to me?

I don’t know

maybe I’m overthinking it but the mindset behind this post doesn’t really make sense to me

i dont even get bold smh

this is discrimination

I think arete is mildly misrepresenting apprentice’s posting

that is a true statement yes

Why

because “I feel like if you haven’t seen anything from me that’s townier than ‘literal openwolving’ then … you are doing something wrong …” sounds better than “I feel like if you haven’t seen anything from me that’s townier than ‘openwolfing, then talking about how you wish you could have solved from spec chat’ then … you are doing something wrong …” and I think that even accounting for the fact that what App did was more nuanced than ‘literal openwolfing’ I’m more confident in all the people I quoted being town than I am in App being town

i know this is super self-centered but am i really your highest townread only because of wind spew? :sob:

i’ll read/comment on everything else in a bit i need to stop opening the thread aa

Idk, representing a slot based on a gamethrowing villager is pretty not based.

I mean, a big part of my read on your slot is YBW + you, like, neither of you has really been super actively solving or whatever

it feels kind of like you’ve given up

what if I suck at the game and the team is just Chloe/Marshal/katze and that’s why Chloe and Marshal keep defending kat

:crab:

brain noises: ‘wow no one is responding does that mean I’m right???’

brain please be quiet this is a dumb tinfoil and no one responding does not in fact make it >rand to be correct

if i said i townread this would you think im a wolf

I’m still defending my slot because I’d prefer to not be in a town leader position (I would’ve joined if I wanted to be town leader). That being said, I still give opinions.