Arctic, how do you feel about your biggest scumread being incorrect?
You think I was reading enough to know what was going on wagons wise Vul?
You overestimate me
i think marshal arete and vulgard are all wolfy today but i told misto iād sheep her on bliz and i have no idea whatās going on this game any more so
I did a Blizer ISO of my own overnight. Iād like you to read it because idk if weāre on the same page.
Blizer analysis
Blizerās progression:
āPKR has not been giving a damn.ā - directed at PKR himself.
āHippo towny.ā
āMarshal, re-eval Eli, Eliās been doing nothing.ā - within the realm of distancing tbh.
āPKRās been antitown, but town.ā - interesting, somewhat contrarian take to come in with.
āPKR is TWTBAW.ā - sure.
āPKR is town.ā - sure.
āI canāt save you, PKR, but youāre town.ā - ā¦sure? The direct appeal to PKR makes me suspicious because it looks like pocketing. It looks like Blizerās trying to paint himself like the savior of the LHF villager here.
āMarshal could be W/W with Eli, protecting Eli.ā - interesting, wish he expanded on that.
āI kinda want Eli dead.ā - noting this for later.
āPKR is town, but he could be wolf.ā - ā¦what. You spend like 50 posts trying to defend him, yet you still say this. Are you going to call him town, or are you still leaving yourself open to misyeeting him later? Because this looks like a wolf not being that willing to clear a villager after all. V!Blizer who does think PKRās town and the village is rushing into a misyeet would call PKR hard town here. There is no need for doubt when Blizerās written like 50 posts detailing why PKR is antitown but V.
āVul vs Marshal V/W, leaning Marshal W.ā - interesting, but heās not pushing Marshal despite this.
ālol has been quiet, hmm.ā - step 1 of lol progression, notice the next steps.
āI want Eli yeeted, but Marshal is defending the slot, so yeah.ā - this is wack. The way heād been talking about Eli suggests he wants Eli dead. Heād outright said heād wanted Eli dead. And heād also suggested Marshal W/W, even W/W with Eli, several times. From his POV, Marshal and Eli could both be wolves. Then why is Marshalās shield on Eli preventing Blizer from pushing on Eli? Itās a wolfās shield on another wolf, you ignore that if you think they are W/W.
You could interpret this two ways. Either Blizer doesnāt want to push on Eli because Eli is V and he doesnāt want to look bad. Or he doesnāt want to push on Eli because Eliās his partner. Either way, he doesnāt want to push on Eli for one reason or another. Despite saying he would like to, mind you. For someone who thinks the town is wrong on PKR, he sure doesnāt try very hard to push an alternative.
ālol has wack early reads.ā - step 2 of lol progression.
āI agree Hippo likely town.ā - yeah, okay.
ālol weird slot.ā - step 3 of lol progression.
ālol goes into PoE, because progression bad.ā - he calls lolās reads bad and thatās why lolās PoE. ā¦What? This looks like an addition to the PoE made for no reason at all. Itās like Blizer read his ISO, thought lol was a viable push and shelved him for āuseā now or later. This doesnāt look like a genuine evaluation of lolās alignment. Blizerās adding lol to his push pool for later use. He doesnāt push lol right away, neither does he try to solve lol with deeper analysis. All he does is read lolās macro play, notice how lolās reads and progression havenāt been great, then slot into PoE. Iām not expecting Blizer to provide constant big brain reads, but this looks so low-effort. For someone claiming to be redirecting the townās course from a misyeetā¦ (PKR townread) He doesnāt even try to case his actual wolfreads. Lol is yet another wolfread he puts out there, then doesnāt push and shelves for later.
ālol/Marshal/Eli are wolves.ā - this is a big post. He claims lol/Marshal/Eli is the team. Yet he does not push Marshal forā¦ no reason given, does not push Eli because Marshalās defending him, and calls lol āweird and PoEā rather than a wolf. He keeps his options open because he wants to have flexibility. He likely slotted a wolf in there as well.
āYeet in Marshal/lol.ā - removes Eli who had a super wolfy d3. Blizer even said this earlier. I donāt know why he is backing off here, itās not like Eli posted anything to change his mind. There is no way Eliās posting could have made Blizer remove Eli from PoE, I do not believe it. Makes their partner equity rise.
ā[insert AtE over being wagoned.]ā
ālol is a wolf, PKR is towny.ā The lol flip does not seem justified to me. I donāt see anything in the thread that would make him want to swap the push target. If he were doing this for self-pres, then sure, I could buy it. Him preferring to self-pres onto lol over PKR makes sense with him townreading PKR. But thatās not the reasoning he provides. He outright says lol is a wolf because lol voted him with no progression. This looks more like a wolf trying to survive rather than a villager changing his read. āThen why would he not vote PKR?ā It would make him look bad. Heād spent the entire day defending PKR, him voting PKR there would make him look terrible. Everybody would notice the sudden flip, and his likelihood of dying would increase.
Also
/vote Marshal
Alsox2
@Arete the reason I didnāt push marshal was cuz I was MIA all day and had like 7 min to push on marshal of all people
Even I know thatās damn near pointless
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either nothing or talking about why he thought people thought crich was wolfy and how they can use his flip to progress the game
did people actually think CRich was wolfy
my impression as an outsider to the thread was that people thought Chloe was wolfy and people thought CRichās early posting was wolfy but that when he started talking about how playing with you made him suicidal it turned into āok heās a villager but kill him anywayā
is that not correct
I was a mix of he was kinda wolfy and also I just didnāt wanna play with him so regardless it can die
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