as you wish fools, your failure has made of me an enemy most foul
idk if this is just me but like
Eli feels like a frozen wolf a bit terms of thread/gamestate currently
hes not interacting with the thread at all, and is reluctant to properly give out his full reads onto slots.
Like hes chiming into thread and makes posts
but there is no weight in them at all to me
Like
i feel like he would be still involved more if he was town here, cause he would atleast care about trying to win here but like hes not doing anything at all
idk, its just the vibe im getting from him currently
i kind of feel the same but then i think town hasnāt played great this game as a whole anyway
which is why if we win now itāll feel really great
and even though i kind of want to die, discovering marshal is like always a villager kind of reinvigorated my wim a little
inb4 sheās still not and iāll feel even worse post game
and yes iām pretending i know youāre a villager for this post but i think you are anyway
lol said he was going to be pretty much useless from then on
wolves would be fine with killing him here
is it normal to scumread all of areteās posts which include extra unnecessary information in parentheses
would you like examples of village games where I included similar clarifications in parentheses or would that interfere with your current strategy of āconvince yourself Arete is a wolf despite any evidence to the contraryā
Worldbuilding
My pov:
Arete/Derps/Eli - World where both partners of lol decided to bus them at EoD3 for no reason. Yeah, no. Even if itās Derps and Eli, I donāt think this happens. They have two village alternatives and still decide to do this? No.
Arete/Derps/Atlas - Viable. The one thing going against it is Arete shrugging at a Derps yeet and Atlas not trying to save or bus lol, at EoD, but Atlas wasnāt even there for EoD. Areteās prodding of Atlas and continuously maintaining a townread today can easily be a W/W move. W!Arete treating V!Atlas like this is unlikely, because it deprives them of a misyeet option. V/W and V/V with Arete V in both cases are possible options, but this world assumes Arete mafia. And Derps is a known busser, so w!Derps voting w!lol at EoD3 isnāt out of the question at all.
Arete/Derps/Blizer - An interesting world. This world arguably makes the most sense, considering it means two wolves were being wagoned at EoD3, so them choosing to pile on one and bus isnāt out of the question. The problem is that Arete is shrugging at a Derps yeet and consistently questioning Blizerās worldview, so much so that itās approaching āoutside of the realm of theaterā territory, but. I still think itās a viable world, considering there are points in favor of it.
Arete/Eli/Atlas - Eli busses lol alone for no reason at EoD3 when his thread position is already good regardless, and Atlas does nothing. Lolslot did townread both Eli and Atlas a fair bit and Arete townreads them too, but I still find this unlikely.
Arete/Eli/Blizer - Viable world, except Eli and Blizer bus a more active partner at EoD3 for no reason. I can see Blizer needing the towncred, but not Eli. In general, I just donāt see the need for Eli to bus there, whatsoever. He does not need the towncred and he is not being pressured to vote there. At all.
Arete/Atlas/Blizer - I actually find this one viable. Blizer mightāve voted lol without actually thinking it goes over. You can argue āwhy donāt you apply this logic to other worlds with Arete and Blizer in themā but these other worlds also involve āa partner voting with Blizer for a double bus.ā Double bussing the most active wolf on your team seems really counterproductive. āW!Blizer votes w!lol out of desperation, without actually thinking lol will go over, in an effort to make either one of them look better post-flipā makes more sense. Especially since Blizer dips right after. Besides, Areteās prodding of Atlas and continuously maintaining a townread can easily be a W/W move. W!Arete treating V!Atlas like this is unlikely, because it deprives them of a misyeet option. V/W and V/V with Arete V in both cases are possible options, but this world assumes Arete mafia.
Derps/Eli/Atlas - They can all do whatever they want with their votes at EoD3. There is nothing to disprove this world other than āI donāt think wolves decide to collectively do nothing for the entire game,ā but thatās not evidence and is meaningless.
Derps/Eli/Blizer - Blizer avoids scumreading both of them (brief suggestion of w!Marshal shielding w!Eli but quickly removes Eli from the equation), they both avoid voting Blizer at EoD3, none of them seem super interested in solving each other. Blizer could be called an exception, but even he brought up a theory of āDerps V, Marshal Wā today. I even questioned it and called it W/W, and he was like āpossible but I think W/V.ā So, basically, I could 100% see this being the world. The one thing that gives me pause is Ami (Blizerās predecessor) randomly popping in and voting Eli, which would be Amiās partner in this world, but itās not clearing. That said, Eli had some chances of going over at the time, soā¦ maybe thatās what disproves this world?
Derps/Atlas/Blizer - Much of the same as above, except Atlas straight up does not vote at all. Actually more likely than the Derps/Eli/Blizer world, because the āwhy would Ami rando vote Eli when Eli had a chance of going over, however smallā argument doesnāt even apply here, since Eliās a villager in this world.
Eli/Atlas/Blizer - Almost identical case to Derps/Eli/Blizer. I could see Eli voting with his partner to save his partner, itās not hard. The āwhy would Ami vote for Eli of all people instead of a villager if Ami wasnāt planning to do anything of noteā argument exists as well.
Worlds that arenāt real imo:
Arete/Derps/Eli
Arete/Eli/Atlas
Arete/Eli/Blizer
Plausible but somewhat unlikely fmpov:
Arete/Derps/Blizer (possibility for it being real: Arete is bussing Derps and hard distancing with Blizer)
Arete/Derps/Atlas (possibility for it being real: Arete is bussing Derps)
Fewest things that make it unlikely fmpov:
Arete/Atlas/Blizer (possibility for it being wrong: Arete is questioning Blizer more than any other player today, minus Vul)
Derps/Eli/Atlas (possibility for it being wrong: they have done nothing)
Derps/Eli/Blizer (possibility for it being wrong: Ami randomly voted Eli at a rare time when he still couldāve gone over in theory)
Eli/Atlas/Blizer (possibility for it being wrong: Ami randomly voted Eli at a rare time when he still couldāve gone over in theory)
A world for which Iāve found no contrary evidence:
Derps/Atlas/Blizer
Note about Arete ābussing Derpsā - Arete is still prioritizing pushing me for the most part, over Derps. And/or Blizer sometimes.
i havenāt seen any convincing evidence to the contrary and no one has really provided me with any