[SFM] Deus Ex 20th Anniversary - Enemy Within 4 - Illuminati wins

[eevee]

Back to those:

@CRichard564

Unless my counting is off, Whysper is at L-2.

Perhaps someone can explain the case against Whysper apart from Derps can prove themselves by killing Eli N4?

@CRichard564

Which is why I’m not rushing to vote Whysper because:

1. Don’t want a quick hammer to kill off discussion time as happened on D2 and D3.
2. Let Whysper try to prove themselves as UNATCO assuming they are UNATCO.

@CRichard564

Does Whysper being green checked make any difference in how you read their slot?

@CRichard564

So if Whysper doesn’t flip UNATCO, then we can assume Amelia is lying.

Specially the last one is weird pre-flip.

[ErikaFurudo]

true, but I can see him meaning if whysper flips illumi. Kind of a dumb thing to say about your gf. I’ll read the context tho I guess.

[ErikaFurudo]

where do you see min nsf here?

[ErikaFurudo]

@min

Fair enough

It’s about time we started focusing on illuminati at this point

@Soulshade55r

And that doesn’t confirm too much honestly.

I’m thinking we should likely get the last NSF

But then again cult will have 3 members and able to convert

day5 priorities

[eevee]

tbh… both of this priorities sound illuminati.

[ErikaFurudo]

I mean I’m p sure Min is converted. Picking between soul and whys is hard because I am still alive and have held those two reads pretty consistently.

[ErikaFurudo]

min or nsf is converted, and i still dont think min is starting nsf.

[eevee]

I would go Whys before today.

The problem is min imo signaling them and Whys being oblivious to it.
And literally pushing min.

Which makes no sense for NSF.

[ErikaFurudo]

if you are talking about today, it’s not like that’s the wrong thing for nsf to do here.

[ErikaFurudo]

@eevee

Where is CL in that scenario for you?

@Whysper

At this point I’m feeling more that you are town. So I’ve been re-evaluating scenarios with Amelia or Min as NSF Leader. I think Amelia is more likely NSF Leader out of the 2. And I think Min being lone Illu could kind of explain their behavior.

What made you think lone illu before amelia and derps died?

[ErikaFurudo]

Soul why didn’t you protect pkr again?

[eevee]

@ErikaFurudo

I mean I’m p sure Min is converted. Picking between soul and whys is hard because I am still alive and have held those two reads pretty consistently.

I mean priorities sounded as illuminati moslty cause illuminati would know that there is not 3 of them, and that’s why they need NSF alive. For kills.
And becouse there is not 3 of them, it would be hard to find them and distracting to focus on them.

Unless it’s same person being NSF and illuminati, which… doesn’t really change anything.

[Soulshade55r]

Me? I figured protectives would pile on him anyway.

[Soulshade55r]

How did pkr die again anyway?

[Soulshade55r]

Actually day 5 I’m pretty sure in the theory that theirs two or less illuminati around is that illuminati would want a miss lynch on town

[eevee]

That’s… the point?

They would definetly want to keep last NSF alive?
That’s why focusing on nearlly non-existent illuminati would help.

[Soulshade55r]

Well if min was a fake cop caim and so wa leafia but claimed d3 idk I would figure scum would be talking about bussing the hell out of leafia from that display

[Soulshade55r]

How would that hope over a NSF lynch?

[Soulshade55r]

What’s the reasoning behind this I wouldn’t mind more detail.

If that’s the case I’m voting whysper but I want to know why you’d feel that strongly

[Soulshade55r]

My progression from my memory of the dead nsf members

Seth: no real interaction I found his early read funny and townie because it was ridiculous but really seth like, then they got outed as scum I was one of the people calling jard BS on scum transporter claims lol.

Leafia: I found the fact they defended outed scum was fine actually but the way they kept being flippy floppy rubbed me the wrong way and I pushed them day 3.

Keep in mind I didn’t vote these two but I was vocal about wanting to yeet them.

Richard: Early town read obviously I voted them when they basically got outed as scum by erika.

In conclusion kinda average interaction outside of my pov I don’t think it really clears me