[SFM] Deus Ex 20th Anniversary - Enemy Within 4 - Illuminati wins

[EliThePsycho]

assuming erika is scum

[EliThePsycho]

ok brb

[ChopChop]

@EliThePsycho

assuming erika is scum

So assuming you made a list of most Town to Least town.
And 1 is the Most and 16 is the Least.
What position would Erika be placed at?

[ATNoName]

@ChopChop

Ok so I’ll explain on how I would have went about it if I was scum gaslighting PKR.

First my message would have been different.

I probably wouldn’t have instantly claimed my role. Most likely I would have probably not took the risk as they could be another evil or a town that could catch me. So I would have been a little more brawn out rather then straight out limit myself and hard claim.

Course if you want to argue that “Seth, you didn’t get checked yet” then fine this point can be irrelevant.

So to start off as soon as PKR gave the check to me I would have probably started to ask him to double check or ask if anything else happened to kinda throw pretend doubt, like I said this before and I’ll say it again I’m not genuine as scum.

Second, I wouldn’t have been saying there is a “Redirector” as a “Safe” to stay alive.

I would probably throw around that I’m being framed and give a poor response of reasoning.

Thirdly, I wouldn’t be trying to solve elsewhere because I probably wouldn’t care to because I would be scum myself and sure you could argue that I am scum looking for the other scum team but ok, why not let my other team deal with it? Do you think I’m Solo scum? Then.

Lastly, I wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice myself.

Especially as solo scum. I know from my POV I’m the most optimal lynch due to suspicion.

I’m not going to deny it, however I’m not going to freak over it I’m going to figure out what happened and how to solve it, not something I’d do as scum. I’m also a Professor and useful. As scum I would have been using my healer Fake Claim as an excuse to not get rid of me. (Kinda like Leafia WAS doing lol)

I’m gonna break this down bit by bit (I may or may not watch something that ended up twisting my brain its gonna take more time).

[ATNoName]

Actually I don’t even need to do it since the entire thing uses the same reasoning except for the last part which involves mech.

I forgot his meta since my last game with him, but this self-meta defense which he paints himself as a bad wolf is ???.

[ATNoName]

@ChopChop

I’m not going to deny it, however I’m not going to freak over it I’m going to figure out what happened and how to solve it, not something I’d do as scum. I’m also a Professor and useful. As scum I would have been using my healer Fake Claim as an excuse to not get rid of me. (Kinda like Leafia WAS doing lol)

While this spells true due to how hes acting, (the whole not outlining the significance of his heals) the fact he missed the part about Derps shooting Eevee was just so stupid that he could be town.

Leafia claimed? let me check……… I don’t see it.

[ErikaFurudo]

@ChopChop

I would probably throw around that I’m being framed and give a poor response of reasoning.

@ChopChop

Probably some scum manipulation role.
I don’t have access to a bomb.

[ATNoName]

yo Erika, got any defense to Eli’s claim of you pocketing him.

[ErikaFurudo]

I’m not really taking it too seriously since he punctuated it with pogchimp, and even said “assuming erika is scum”. Which well yes, if I’m scum you could surmise im pocketing/tmi on the slot.

He can think what he wants. It only becomes a problem for future me if seth flips town.

[ATNoName]

Well ok then.

[ATNoName]

Also I feel like someone hasn’t been posting lately.

[ErikaFurudo]

Also scum surge is clearly goading it out of him.

[ATNoName]

Would you think it is w/w because I am suspicious of Eli

[ErikaFurudo]

no not really. W/w wouldn’t have to posture like this with elli seeming unsure about it.

[ATNoName]

it’s just he says surge is scum and then he suddenly transitions into saying he was pocketed was just wolfy in a way I can’t describe.

[ATNoName]

The closest explanation I could think of is that he is trying to agree with everything currently.

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I am lurking for now mostly cuz I’m busy

[ErikaFurudo]

So here’s how I see it. Scum surge could just tell elli to sus me, and eli could respond to my v slight tr on him and make the exact same post. There would be no need for surge to say this first to him thread.

@ChopChop

Also forgot to point out that Erika’s read on Eli is garbage as you shouldn’t TR someone for a NAI Post

His next few posts seem like he’s trying to convince Eli to doubt me who has been p loud in regards to hanging surge.

@ChopChop

Well I may have hinted at it before but I said it now.

(Also thinking Erika might be the 4th scum)

@ChopChop

So Erika’s pocketing you?

@ChopChop

So assuming you made a list of most Town to Least town.
And 1 is the Most and 16 is the Least.
What position would Erika be placed at?

It doesn’t seem w/w to me regardless of what seth/eli alignments actually end up being.

[ErikaFurudo]

Also isn’t eli a sr of his? Why immediately does seth pivot to me pocketing eli? The line of questioning seems awfully contradictory/convenient for seth. Hes basically saying don’t trust either of us while trying to goad a sr on me out of eli.

[ChopChop]

@ATNoName

@ChopChop

I’m not going to deny it, however I’m not going to freak over it I’m going to figure out what happened and how to solve it, not something I’d do as scum. I’m also a Professor and useful. As scum I would have been using my healer Fake Claim as an excuse to not get rid of me. (Kinda like Leafia WAS doing lol)

While this spells true due to how hes acting, (the whole not outlining the significance of his heals) the fact he missed the part about Derps shooting Eevee was just so stupid that he could be town.

Leafia claimed? let me check……… I don’t see it.

They said “I’m a healer” as a reason not to lynch me.