And that was it folks, many came, many fought, many had fun. One winner walks out with some Legendary weapon. Results sending now
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Yall wake up in the plains of Verdane as yall were traveling to stop the invasion, but in the middle of the field where one of the tents was is now an ashen mess. Someone burnt down @Alice 's tent leaving nothing of her body as it burnt away and the wind carried it away.
Alice's flip
Disheartened by this site, yall continue on with your Day 2 of your defense. Where you see a group of three knights wearing green fighting a group of six knights wearing red. They are bonus ita targets and dont count towards the day’s ITA kill cap. An old man walks up to you and says, “Those Green Knights saved me, and I paid them a great deal of money. If you could save them I would pay you all some extra cash about 200 for each green unit more than there are red units at the end of the day to everyone alive.” Another old man comes up and says, “Those green units are the laziest smucks I know, they deserve whats coming to them. If anyone kills one I’d pay you 2,000 gold individually”
Day has started and will last for 48 hours or at 2020-05-20T16:45:00Z
ITAs are enabled. Have fun
making sod2 post here
Players:
- Marshal
- KyoDaz
- ClonedCheese
- ModeShifter
- SirDerpsALot
- CRichard564
- Italy
- Vulgard
-
意大利eevee - Hippoyeetus
- oB_L1ght
- an_gorta_pratai
- PokemonKidRyan
- Darth_Vader
- Alice
- Apprentice
- Icibalus
EVO- Lynched Day 1 Finn- Evil_Ginger
- sulit
- Chloe
- Leafia
- TheBlueElixir
- Centuries
The Marshal Shotlist™
DO NOT SHOOT [Not in any order]
Marshal
Vulgard
PKR
Alice
Ici
Ginger
Sulit
Crichard
Centuries (secret reason)
Chloe (Provided she’s resolved)
Leafia (Provided they’ve resolved)
NOT GREAT SHOTS [not in any order]
Derps
Crichard
Eevee
Hippo
oB_LightGorta
Apprentice
SHOT LIST: GOOD SHOTS [Best -> Worst]
Chloe (If not resolved)
Leafia (If not resolved)
Modeshifter [Wait for confirmation from PKR, if he can handle this solo, take it off shot list]
Italy
Clonedcheese
TheBlueElixer
Darth_Vader
KyoDaz
This is not “the” shotlist. I’m not going to enforce this or this specifically.
If a player wishes to argue why someone should be off of the shot list, or why someone should be on the shotlist, they may.
I imagine alice has one of these too and is gonn post it SoD as well. Likely we will discuss on a final shot list, taking things that happened in night into account.
I think the one who should have final say, if resolved, is Chloe. If she is proven, then she should have final say on the shotlist.
Side note, I got another envelope that claimed to be the “IRS” wanting money. I would have been stupid to give in to the letter again
and I was
I gave 69 gold
I don’t want to say anything about my role because it’s not like you guys will directly trust me anyways.
I mean this is an Anti-Claim game I can’t give you my abilities but what I can tell you is that it’s beneficial for me to shoot scum today.
Let’s not forget, I was almost lynched while I was sleeping which is very disappointing but yeah I figured me and EVO were both Town and ClonedCheese was probably the scum. Not surprising.
I know some of you might hate me for this, but I’m shooting CRichard because I really believe them to be the scum here.
The reason I’m shooting here over Cloned is because Cloned is the obvious shot for PoE and I feel CRichard should be in that PoE so I’ll put them in my own PoE.
I won’t stop you if you shoot at me, but just note it benefits scum more then Town and you’ll regret it.
Although if your scum go right ahead and shoot me lol.
/ITA CRichard
@DatBird
I know that there will be deaths or there wont be but there will be discussion on the topic
I don’t want to interrupt it, but I cant stay for long, and have some content I wrote n1 I want to give now
so yall can ignore the first of the two posts for now if youd like but the second one should be acknowledged at the very least
but deaths should be discussed, so do that, and questions can be noted for when I get back
I got a red on someone last night. I’m not going to say who yet so I can watch for spew.
Thracia 776 FM Game Thread: Night 1 (23/24)
Ongoing
FINAL VC of Day 1 VC Voted Votee Votes ModeShifter Chloe, Icibalus, TheBlueElixir, Vulgard, Apprentice, Marshal, Hippoyeetus, EVO 8/13 ClonedCheese SirDerpsAlot, ModeShifter 2/13 EVO PokemonKidRyan, an_gorta_pratai, Alice, CRichard564, Sulit, oB_L1ght, Evil_Ginger, ClonedCheese, 8/13 Marshal Eevee 1/13 Not Voting KyoDaz, Darth_Vader, Italy, Leafia, Centuries 5 As first post states end of day is at 11:53 am est and host didn’t call end of day til exactly at 11:54 am est. We a…
lets take a closer look at EVO’s voters, shall we?
[SFM] Insurgency: Treason in Jugdral — Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 FM Game Thread: Night 1 (23/24)
|EVO|PokemonKidRyan, an_gorta_pratai, Alice, CRichard564, Sulit, oB_L1ght, Evil_Ginger, ClonedCheese,|8/13
I wont forget Hippo or Marshal either.
PKR - ahem let me bring something up
“C) We are not going to mechanically clear people.
Unless you’re an IC, a mason, or greenchecked, then mechanics will not clear you. Wolf-aligned trackers can exist, wolf-aligned double voters can exist, wolf-aligned gladiators can exist. Point is, we’re not going to do like in LotR where we cleared two wolves for being a double-voter and a medium. So your doctor claim will not take you out of the shotlist.”
-Alice
not that Alice went through with it but we don’t know what abilities scum has and how many uses it has. Heck, towncoring PKR for having an abil…what happened? They built it up with 1 earlier post and just kinda used it and got towncored for it. Dunno about you lads but if it only took one use out of a potentially multi-use abil to get insta towncored id take it. All you had to do aswell was to go just pick someone to throw a trial on early. Never W/W with Chloe(obviously), and I mean, theres no way he coulda thought that he wouldve just caught a scum that early and trialed them and easy end day early. There is no world in which they think that they have caught scum that early. Makes much more sense from the perspective that he could redirect attention + possibly kill non-scum + possible early day end + get a stupid amount of towncred for the abil.
What im saying with that slot shouldn’t be cleared from where its at right now, and I smell some scum motivation. Does warrant a closer look.
Gorta - where’s the content? where’s the reasoning for not being scum? where are you? And, wheres the reasoning for the vote on EVO? All…just not there. I should mention a few things I did see from them.
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[SFM] Insurgency: Treason in Jugdral — Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 FM Game Thread: Night 1 (23/24)
/vote Gorta
the only person that answered my question was Apprentice, and they said that gorta is usually really towny under pressure
so ill go with it and see where it leads
I haven’t even said anything yet. Give me some time to talk"
Their defense to an admittedly early and unsupported vote was to say they need time to talk. They have 45 posts. So this isn’t something that really fit in hindsight
“Town
(1)Ici
(2)Vulgard
(3)Alice
(4)Modeshifter
(5)Cloned
(6)Chloe
Scum
These are subject to change and just my conclusion from skimming the thread”
given that this was in the really early game, this was practically copy+paste what marshal/vul/alice coulda told you, besides being a bit early on the curve with Chloe if I remember correctly.
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[SFM] Insurgency: Treason in Jugdral — Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 FM Game Thread: Night 1 (23/24)
most of my towncore is voting EVO and most of my shot list is not voting
I will likely join the EVO wagon later."
I think this says more then the actual EVO vote post, because the EVO vote post stated he didn’t want to quickhammer, while this post is just like ‘Hey I should be townread’ but not actually having done anything. This is also the post right before the EVO vote. Not a fan of this post, less doing things, not even faking effort, more like that they want to be given money for work they didn’t do.
This ISO is generally half 1 lines that don’t contribute anything and mini-walls to any posts directed to their own slot. Nothing new/spicy/pushy(which he was in ToS 2) content from him. I want to say it reeks of newbwolf. They just struggle with keeping up, but this slot’s lower confidence in gutreads and massive relax in content make em in the PoE/Shotlist.
I’d ITA this slot, and am considering doing so.
Alice - Contradicts her first post the more I think about it. Lets address the points.
A) We are going to create a shots list and stick to it.
not contradicted yet if it was going to happen, but note that there are people forming against your shotlist.
B) We are not going to slank.
People slanked anyway. Heck, you pushed for a lynch on a slanker, EVO, which reinforces this point but activity isn’t an argument, its a support pillar at best. Also, you put Italy at an exact null for slanking, though tbf you said you’d ITA slankers.
C) We are not going to mechanically clear people.
Read PKR’s bit, but literally everybody went against this, and where were you? I think you contradicted this point too, actually.
Now I know you’ll say you TR PKR for things besides the Trial but the only argument ive ever seen was the trial. If you have something else to say, say it, and say it well
D) Everyone will make reads in the first day.
E) We will not claim for no reason.
F) Vigs should follow the shotlists as well.
nothing to really say about these, weren’t really contradicted or followed because besides D they’re kinda obvious.
You know, I once heard the best way to read you, Alice, is to see whether or not your right. If your right, your probably town. If your wrong, your scum. You were wrong Alice. If your wrong too many times you bite my ITA. Hope it doesn’t come to this, but I will take the advice on how to read you.
I want to look into why you voted EVO but a lot of that is emotion and Im not going to make that AI. There are some bits ill point out.
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The cheese wagon was extremely sketchy. A lot of votes on him were done in a wolfy manner and much of the PoE were in there. After Hippo and I highlighted it people just skittered off it except Derps. "
reads that aren’t backed up. What I remember was you @ing the people on the cloned wagon and telling them to get a different wagon, not this, though I probably missed it im writing this really late and don’t have the time to re-read the entire thread.
Another large part of her vote was because EVO sheeped Alice’s EG read, because EVO thought that Alice as either alignment would probably not fake this read, since others agree and its probably an easy read for her. So EVO sheeped it, and Alice couldn’t process that from a town PoV. Well, it was. Guess you just couldn’t understand it? If im going by the advice from earlier, bad look for Alice.
Overall, I think Alice shouldn’t be towncored due to contradictions and being wrong. I still townlean them because theres not enough to yet warrant a case on them, but I can see W!Alice being a thing so keep an eye out.
CRich - might be their first scumgame, don’t know. I want to look more into this slot, but im realizing now that doing a little ISO in one big post will result in nobody reading it instead
but how’s your own vote for VCA?
hehe I just want to say that because you use VCA for all your reads
want to look more into this slot, has gotten into towncores for meta reasons but I want to look farther then that. Not happening in this post because I don’t have the time to write it and you(probably) dont have the time to read it
Sulit - I took a look at her ISO and it was mostly nothing, but reads are made early and consistently. The only reads that feel out of place is Italy that goes from a townread then just suddenly gets the vote. It is explained by Italy’s lack of reads, but just wasn’t build up. She gives reads as she thinks of em but id like to see them organized if I could. The only really fishy thing this slot has done is vote EVO after saying EVO is a bad vote without an explanation.
So eh I don’t want this slot to die soon but its dropping and want to see if this slot manages to pick itself back up.
oB_L1ght - I haven’t seen enough to actually warrant any bad reviews, currently a townlean, might go up if I read ISO but since im confident in this slot id like to get moving so I can actually finish this in time.
Don’t ITA this slot.
Evil Ginger - Ahem, what? I don’t know how to read this slot but EG hasn’t given me anything to work with besides memes so I cant in my right mine townread this slot. Im going to just sheep what consensus seems to be here.
I wouldn’t mind and ITA on EG since itll just help resolve that slot, but I know others may disagree
ClonedCheese - I like that he doesn’t just submit. Like, a few people, marshal/alice/vul,towncore each other and then they get branded the consensus towncore, rather then their own towncore. This slot looked passed it, and I don’t think that’s scummy. I want a larger case from him on the towncore but I find myself agreeing to an extent. He also gets pushed for making this case the towncore which is really HMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I want to see more but I like where he’s coming from and want to see where he goes
Don’t ITA this slot.
Marshal - Might be hard to believe, but if you try to get EVO lynched then hop off the wagon at the last moments you don’t get off this list. Ive been scumreading this slot all game p much, something has felt wrong about the vibe. It might have something to do with the hiatus but I cant write it off that easy. Ill try to build a case later but I sniffed agenda and an oddly serious tone.
I want to ITA this slot but I acknowledge that ill need to build a case and even after that the only way this slot dies and I don’t also get barraged is a lynch(unless they are actually scum but I don’t yet have the confidence to ITA it with that in mind)
Hippo - I haven’t really liked anything coming from this slot, him following the money just kinda nails that in. I think? I ISO’d this before but not a lot of content/reads and a lot of being purposefully? ignorant.
I would like an ITA here and am considering doing so myself.
Final note - well I mean im about to post another post but I wont be on for a few more hours so leave responses for when I get back. TheRedElixir wanted pressure on our towncore and quite frankly I agree. My next post is a solution to having ITAs in a game where neither the PoE or the towncore is confident. About this post though, sorry that the quality of reads just kinda went down, I got tired(but its morning now) and I needed to finish this. This was also really long, mostly of a result of saying the things that haven’t been said about Alice’s contradictions/PKR’s Trial/Cloned cheese’s boldness.
there’s at least 7 people wanting to shoot me now and i’ve hit my goal of day 2 without a claim so i’ve decided to claim
READ THIS
This is a chain of shotlists. Reply to this slotlist with your own. If someone else already replied, reply to the other person’s shotlist. So we get a chain going. You probably get the idea. This should help organize who actually is consensus scum. Since scum might have 5-6 members, this will work best if all the town could reply please. Also don’t be too exclusive with this, or we’ll never get a consensus.
I also understand if you want a towncore to do it instead of this but we don’t have a conf. town its best to use our advantage in numbers.
Mode
SDA
Italy
eevee(the slot hasn’t don’t much as far as reads if my memory works)
Hippo
Leafia(self-resolving, but unlike Chloe im not sure I believe it)
gorta
Evil
Ici(I don’t remember where you were besides SoD)
Ginger
Marshal(I know I cant but its in spirit)
I cant play for a few more hours but when I get back on I should be able to compile the lists.
