[SFM] Insurgency: Treason in Jugdral — Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776 FM Game Thread: Game Over (8/24) — FINALE: Bow Before Loptous — The Loptrian Empire Wins!

[Leafia]

Finally got caught up. Wow. It takes quite awhile to do so. I started reading up around 1 hour and 45 minutes ago. To answer your question Hippo, it tells me in my role card the exact role that can link with me and that they are villager as well. I can show you my role card if you want proof. As for the hunting thing, me softclaiming Mason was the hint that I left for whoever my bond brother happened to be.

[Marshal]

I had some non-meta reasons to TR zone

kinda forgot them but I could look back if needed

[TheBlueElixir]

@Leafia

I can show you my role card if you want proo

bad

[Arete]

@Leafia

I can show you my role card if you want proof.

do not do this

[Zone_Q11]

@eevee

Gorta > Zone > Kyo > Centuries

Questions?

Yeah; when do you want to die?

@eevee

Zone is weird for Zone.

He actually makes friends.

That’s… weird.

It’s called playing a game with a destroyed Village Idiot meta, *****. I don’t want to be a root vegetable, and I don’t EVER want to play seriously, so I just chose to continue doing whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do.

[Geyde]

Vote Count

Voted	Votee	Votes
Zone_Q11	Leafia	1/10
Darth_Vader	Vulgard, Apprentice	2/10
Centuries	Marshal, Icibalus, Hippoyeetus, oB_L1ght	4/10
TheBlueElixir	Zone_Q11	1/10
KyoDaz	SirDerpsAlot	1/10
an_gorta_pratai	Arete, eevee	2/10
Not Voting	KyoDaz, an_gorta_pratai, Darth_Vader, Centuries, PokemonKidRyan, CRichard564, TheBlueElixir, Chloe	8

[Leafia]

Also, the Centuries wagon makes a lot of sense to me and I trust who’s in it, so I’m joining it.

/unvote

/vote Centuries @DatBird

I will say this though. If Centuries is villager, then Ici will be confirmed wolf for wanting him to die so much.

[Zone_Q11]

@Zone_Q11

As long as they don’t bother me, they can be whatever town they want. …but since that is clearly not the case,

@Geyde

|an_gorta_pratai|Arete, eevee|2/10

…welp, for starters I am clearly mistaken on Arete. …either that, or he is simply prioritizing Gorta’s death over mine.

[an_gorta_pratai]

@TheBlueElixir

p sure its a compliment that you were willing to shoot em

I know, but I still don’t like my shot.

@Vulgard

Ici, between gorta and Vader, who would you wagon? I don’t really have a coherent case against either of them just yet, but I think I’m ready for another dunk after ModeShifter.

Please understand that I am not a wolf and I can explain everything. I will do anything to prove it

@Icibalus

Actual answer: Vader is probably the more likely lynch to hit w, Gorta lynch provides far more information regardless of allignment, though.

I think my alignment provides a bit of information as well, but I don’t want to die right now.

@Vulgard

I feel like the only reason they are tunneling Vader is because they want to be townread for going against the consensus. The reasoning for the tunnel is basically “Alice is too towny, her early post was NAI and she’s not town for writing it, meaning she’s probably scum.” This is some uncanny leap of logic right there. The vote doesn’t even make sense if you’re trying to go against the consensus. I would understand things like deepwolf paranoia much better than… this.

Alice was obvious town. Why would Vader try to lead a lynch on that? I feel like Vader would try to kill Alice n1 because they tried to get rid of Alice d1.

@TheBlueElixir

Ive been TRing Cent the whole game

Reasons?

@Vulgard

This post feels like… soft defending of Seth’s slot? There’s an admission of Seth being somewhat different (“This Seth is not the ToS 2 Seth”), but also a claim that Seth is typically oddly villagery. It feels like gorta is trying to indirectly defend Seth here, but the post is awkwardly phrased, so I’m not sure.

I did soft defend Seth because it’s rare to see Seth as a wolf and most of the times I suspected him in the past he was a villager. In hindsight it does look scummy, but I was relying a bit too much on meta and was going to shoot Seth if he was alive.

@Vulgard

Oh god, this looks so partnery. He’s calling Seth fake, but he still refuses to vote Seth and doesn’t even express intent to vote Seth. Not a single time does Gorta actually call Seth a wolf, he’s just asking Seth to improve. In light of Seth’s flip, this looks really bad for Gorta. It’s like a partner encouraging a partner in thread.

I wanted to give him a chance because like I said, Seth is a odd case and is usually village. I knew that if Seth was town he could do better.

@Vulgard

Gorta was perfectly willing to vote both village alternatives to the Seth wagon, and did , but he didn’t vote Seth even though he considered Seth fake. He was perfectly aware of the scummy things that Seth was doing, and he acknowledged my case as valid, but it didn’t make him swap the vote even for a split second. There is also this brief, but super partnery interaction he had with Seth – the message about “stop being fake pls.” So basically, gorta was actively voting villagers and actively avoiding voting a wolf. I don’t think all of this is coincidental. I think gorta is just a wolf based on all this.

I did sheep Alice’s reads because I know Alice is a good player and I trusted her. I parked my vote on EVO and then went to bed, but after I woke up and it was too late I felt regret. I then changed my read on EVO as I read the thread and I couldn’t do a thing to change my vote. I really did screw up on that lynch and I regret it, but that’s what I get for not following my gut. I would also like to point out that everyone wanted Cheese dead, but I get the blame for shooting Cheese? I regret the shot and should have followed my gut (same could apply to the EVO lynch), but I can’t change that now.

@Aelin

Also, I hate to preflip, but… I’m Centuries is red, imo Kyo is too.

Kyo could be red, but I don’t think Kyo flips red, unless the JK play and Seth shot are in his scum range.

@eevee

This deserves a lynch btw

Was that not a valid train of thought? I could have pulled off a play like that as scum and I am a newbie to this site. It’s like fake claiming masons.

[Leafia]

Okay. I won’t show my rolecard.

[Zone_Q11]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You did it! You child of an eevee, you did it!
You unvoted me! You lack CONVICTION after all!

[eevee]

@Leafia

I will say this though. If Centuries is villager, then Ici will be confirmed wolf for wanting him to die so much.

no

[TheBlueElixir]

@Leafia

I will say this though. If Centuries is villager, then Ici will be confirmed wolf for wanting him to die so much.

that’s how 2 possible townies die

im sorry im multitabbing

[Zone_Q11]

[Arete]

@eevee

I think this may have been part of what you were getting at earlier

After Poisonous FM you specifically expressed criticism of strategies that involve the collective town deciding what happens and forcing everyone else to comply

here you seem fine-to-approving of the ‘have the collective town force everyone to shoot specific players’ thing

is there a reason for that

[Aelin]

Imo, this would be too much for Ici to be scum. He knows it would make him look like utter trash if this flips blue.

[Zone_Q11]

Alright. I finally made a small-but-proper list.

DEAD
TheBlueElixir
Leafia

Dead
Apprentice
eevee

Alive
Vulgard
Arete
Marshal

ALIVE
PokemonKidRyan
CRichard564

…it be smoll, but it is pretty much fixed.

[Zone_Q11]

@Zone_Q11

Dead
Apprentice
eevee

Oh. Right. I should be adding Derps here as well.
…also who else scumread me again?

[Zone_Q11]

@Zone_Q11

Alive
Vulgard
Arete
Marshal

Adding L1ght and Centuries.
(Centuries until Vulgard explains the situation to me.)

[Zone_Q11]

Actually, move Derps to DEAD. Beneath Leafia.