I wanted it to be obvious to you without actually softing
and when you called it out the first time I was like ‘…clearly I am failing to make it obvious enough’
I accept a fair amount of responsibility for losing LoTR mafia cuz i had the ring and spent most of the game meming and selfpreserving rather than using it to actually kill mafia.
We are on a site with a lot of mechanic heavy games. Claiming is almost always +EV here.
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Where did this discussion come from?
And for all the heavy mechanic games people can’t realize an NK by them basically all but outright stating it, I don’t know what to say honestly.
If I was town I would have realized it pretty fast still, investigative neutrals aren’t a thing, the claimed class was way too powerful to be a town role, and the whole thing would likely collapse as I’d be in a better mindset instead of extremely tilted and stressed to properly persuade people. And I wouldn’t get lockscummed as hard.
It’s the meta of this site. Some kinds of mechanics won’t happen unless the host states it. And metagaming the host “they wouldn’t design such a class” is pretty meh
Neutral investigative that tries and gets people to lie about their classes that claims immunity to anti-claim does sound a bit suspicious, but its true that I TMI’d and jumped ahead too much using information I shouldn’t have had. If I had instead waited in patience and started presenting arguments to try and create and fake a townie mindset it might have worked better.
I think the most suspicious thing about Wazza was that Wazza was actively attempting to lie and conceal information, which a legit neutral would have no reason nor risk to do so.
Either Wazza gets strongmanned or is protected by town anyways. And he claims anti-claim immune too
Because it provided result which was catching scum and that is enough for any predictable negative outcome
Maybe, but it requires a motive. A anti-claim immune neutral who is going to be protected anyways doesn’t really have much of a reason to lie, I guess.
well the anticlaim-immune thing was obviously a lie
but the reason people would lie about that is so that scum thinks they’re anticlaim-immune and doesn’t try to waste time on them
Tbh I think noone thinks here that town needs a real reason to lie about their class 
I think that if you’re lying as town there should generally be some sort of purpose or reason
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Maybe, but the lies never escalated to only being able to day invest 3 targets to infinity targets