[SFM] Va-11 Hall-A Greatest Idea Game Thread - Day 7 (5/19) - Mafia Wins

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#7870

Without the knowledge of numbers, and if their is a cult then no lynching here is bad as shit.

#7871

Doctor is outed, so them exisiting doesnt matter?

Also no lynch forces a scum kill, solving if we have killing scum left.

And last but not least - its still F8, not F7, so since noone died, we are free to go for it.

Unless you expect scum to no kill one more time for any reason.

#7872

Even number of players is theoretically mafia-sided becuase wolves have to mis-execute the same amount of people as if it were the odd number below it # of players

This is assuming it’s mountainous 1v7, there’s other stuff that can happen.

#7873

I wanna assume the number of mafia that exist if the faction does exist is between 1-3

The only world I suggest a no lynch in is if we are certain we aren’t hitting an anti town aligned palyer.

#7874

Marshal, what other stuff?

All protectoves are outed.
Scum has to willingly not kill again for it to be worth it.

#7875

But I don’t see why we don’t no-exe at the final 4

If we no exe now, whats to stop mafia from no-killing again, and the cycle repeating enough times to get people to suspect me.

If it is in fact mafia, the seers aren’t a threat, and nobody has anything else to incentivize not no-killing

The threat of execution, however, does incentivize mafia to kill.

#7876

Mechanics?

Same as at F4?

Literally scum being forced to kill to prevent forever ever after scenarios?

#7877

What’s the ruling on it

if there’s a forever ever after scenario ruling i’ll consider it

#7878

Alsoz are you serious about thinking I’m Cult Black Goo or was it meming on Surge?

#7879

You also have to consider that hydra G7 starts monday :^)

But that aside
I’ll still do whatever is mechanically optimal
If there’s a forever after mechanic I’ll vote no-exe

#7880

Memeing on surge / trying to convince him to vote ami > TL for today

#7881

When you guys talk about forever ever after rulings, do you mean the host imposing a required night kill?

#7882

Yeah

forever ever after basically means that mafia no-kill and town no-execute every day/night because it’s mechanically optimal for them both to do so (for example in final 4 of a mountainous game, town want to force mafia to kill someone at night to thin PoE whereas mafia want town to have to pick between 4 players instead of 3)

so forever ever after rulings force one of them to kill someone
Burden usually falls on mafia but sometimes it’s on town

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#7883

I do it in my games. I only allow mafia to holster their shot twice, 3rd time I choose the kill between all living players not aligned with that faction.

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#7884

Ahhh okay. And if burden was on town, it would be a required cuddle otherwise random, right?

#7885

Votecount

Voted Count Accusers
TL 1/5 Surge
No Lynch 1/5 Eevee 
printf("%d ", 0);
#7886

I lied mine is at 1

- Mafia may only choose to holster their shot once per game. This is according to a rule of my own making to prevent stalemates.

You may only successfully vote for a no elimination twice per game. In the case of a 3rd no elimination, the elimination will be randomized between all living players. In the case of a tie happening after both no eliminations have been used all of the tied trains will be eliminated. In the case of a normal tied elimination, disregarding the previous circumstances, the day will end in a no elimination.

@Whysper

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#7887

Ahh, so you have something for both mafia and town.

#7888

Only reason I have at 2 for town is because I believe voting a no lynch is a actual strat, I don’t think holstering is ever good unless under extreme circumstances.

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#7889

Is someone asking the host then about the forever ever after for this game? I’m okay with doing no lynch as well if we have a plan regarding this.