[SFM] - WoW: BfA v1.0 - Day 5 (5/16) - The Alliance win!

Tfw Geyde’s greatest accomplishment in this game was killing a town and flipping as the opposite alignment to the one on his classcard.

This is an oof, but hey. We lynched a superpower. ^-^

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Time for classic Vulgard VCA.

H_Hja (1): SirDerpsAlot
Shurian (2): Isaac_Gonzalez, Marshal
Isaac_Gonzalez (6): Shurian, Vulgard, Pilica, DirectorHail, Jgoesgaming, PoisonedSquid

The most important takeaway here is that Shurian is lock clear based on everything that happened, and so is Director most likely. Bussing a lost wolf superpower is really -EV and while it might work to let scum endgame, I don’t think it was the proper play here.

That means the strongest Isaac pushers are most likely clear. I want to list myself here, but that’s s u s p i c i o u s so eh. Shurian and Director top town.

Marshal’s vote was once again atrocious. Remember that day 1 he CFDed off Soul into Frost, who flipped town. And day 2 he voted Shurian, who is almost certainly town in hindsight. This means Marshal has never voted a scum member and kept pushing town wagons.

It’s possible he’s having a bad town game, but this really bugs me.

Living players:

Vulgard - town but only from my POV.
H_Hja - strongly suspected slot. I’m still not convinced it’s town.
Magnus - come on, do something.
PKR - I think this is where I’m voting for now.

/vote PokemonKidRyan

Anyway, back to the matter at hand.

Marshal - really bad votes throughout the game. I’m thinking we should consider lynching this unless he’s mech clear and I missed it.
Shurian - town.
Director - town.
Derps - I have no idea.

I only trust Director and Shurian rn. I don’t have many strong townreads and this is going to bite me, but I think PKR and Marshal look the worst now.
Gotta re-check something.

Oh yeah and Squid. I think Squid is town based on her EoD1 but that’s mediocre.

Accused Voters Votes
PokemonKidRyan Vulgard 1/6

Yeah, second year now. Anyway, I used an investigative ability on someone and it said that my ability failed. I don’t think anyone in the Alliance would prevent visits or occupy visitors to this guy, so that’s why I’m feeling like they have a good chance of being scum

Oh yeah and Jgoes is a thing. His posts are so forgettable I forgot to place him anywhere.
Time to re-read.

Derps did you rally barrier Pilica?

I could have also been occupied by this, but I don’t think scum would have any reason to use this on someone that isn’t highly townread

Now that I’m reading these posts, they feel like agenda. He doesn’t explain the ‘second voter on Frost is likely to be scum’ at all. Then, he ‘read the thread and realized Blizer was the second voter.’ I personally believe that was a load of crap and he must have seen the votes before making that read. The progression just doesn’t sound genuine. ‘The second voter on Frost is probably scum but I don’t know who it is.’ ‘Oh it’s Blizer. How convenient. I was scumreading him already. vote’ I’m just… I really think this isn’t very genuine. I townread Marshal based on conviction earlier but this conviction feels like agenda now that I’m re-reading.

Eh. I’m not sure if anybody agrees but I get bad vibes here all around. Blizer->Hja is probably 100% town with Marshal scum. That’s the only way I will be certain of Hja’s alignment.

In hindsight this is terrible. He doesn’t focus on the flipped superpower, claiming it’s hard to read him. It sounded okay back then, but now it just looks scummy.

Hesitant to take a stance, just like PKR later.

Extreme reaching. Maybe he was going for the ‘people will townread me because my reads are unique’, but I just think this is forced.

Notice how he says ‘hail or isaac’. He keeps his options open. He wants to be able to kill Hail instead of Isaac. This looks terrible given isaac’s flip that also spews Hail as 99% town. Marshal shoehorned ‘hail scum’ into a universe where Shurian is town. This looks like he was trying to set up a string of town deaths.

I’m starting to think this is not too scummy to be scum. This D2 ISO has been a pitfall after a pitfall, and it’s not like Marshal is a bad player. At least some of this must have been deliberate. I don’t think it’s about ‘incorrect reads’ anymore.

And the fact he keeps pushing on Blizer just makes me want to lynch him more. There is a town vs scum thunderdome and instead of trying to resolve it, he keeps talking about Blizer, as if trying to distract us while he refuses to take a strong stance. This feels like he is trying to poison us with agenda while we discuss the thunderdome.

Zero consideration for town Shurian.

…Why do I feel like this is scum talking to scum? Marshal doesn’t even seem to be scumreading PKR, he just says ‘get over here’ and leaves things at that. This doesn’t look like he wants PKR around so he can solve the guy’s alignment. It also feels a little random but that’s less AI.
Maybe it’s confbias speaking to me right now, I just get a bad vibe from that given everything beforehand in Marshal’s ISO.

Note that Geyde also flipped town. So if Geyde was saved somehow, Marshal would currently be trying to lynch him. And Geyde was almost certainly town.

‘I’ll acknowledge the bad move but won’t acknowledge my involvement, that’ll make me look bad.’
I know this is NAI but hhhhhhhhh.

If he’s scum, he’s pretending. If he’s town, he’s not pretending.
I have no idea why I even brought this up.

Conclusion: in hindsight, Marshal’s D2 ISO is a dumpster fire. He exclusively pushed likely town, wrote several posts that feel like agenda, and in general he has been obstructing a superpower lynch. All of these are things scum would do in that situation.

There are some arguments to be made for Marshal town, but I think he’s really scummy right now and would seriously consider him as a lynch candidate.

If we don’t lynch Marshal today I want him to fullclaim before EoD. He already threw a soft and a crumb, apparently, but I’m bad at noticing these so y’know.

Well, now that I know he’s posting and not hiding, I can say that Marshal’s a better person to lynch than PKR. Most of the reasons are mechanical, but there are theories in my head that I don’t want to happen

I’m fairly certain I know what race he is claiming, less sure about the class.

I hardclaim human hunter beast mastery

D1: nothing
N1: beast mastery(I received iron fur)
D2: invest blizer for goblin(they aren’t)
N2: tripwire Pilica(to catch scum occers it redirectors) Magnus visited.

Softs explained in a while but my first post being drunk was referring to “HH” which could be happy hour or human hunter.

I’m off for a while

I didn’t think I’d be a nighkill target and didn’t use iron fur because I was sus for my incorrect reads

@Magnus

?

You don’t have to claim yet, but it’d be nice to know why you visited Pilica. You clearly weren’t trying to heal her bleed because she was unhealable.

Okay, then I have one question for you. Why did my investigative result on you fail when I visited you last night?

So, me, Shurian, Hail and you are all Hunters?

I don’t know.