[SFM] - WoW: BfA v1.0 - Day 5 (5/16) - The Alliance win!

[Geyde]

Reminds me of how I almost always roll pr on MU

[Arete]

If you remember how I used to be AreteSlashStars, arete2 was Arete

I got the mods to rename them so that I could be the true Arete

[Solic]

wow, talk about modbias

[Firekitten]

What if arete comes back and gets angry at the fact their name was changed

[Arete]

That’ll be unfortunate for them, now, won’t it

[Vulgard]

Marshal can you finally roll town pls.

Looks like I was correct in assuming your play wouldn’t be this bad as town. You literally did everything for your team.

[Vulgard]

And oh, Director was town.
I thought he deepwolved somehow.

[Vulgard]

@Pilica @PoisonedSquid Very good kill targets. Reducing the PoE really helped us win.

[Vulgard]

I kept going after townies D1 but improved later.
…I guess it’s not terrible.

D1 I scumread Luxy/Blizer/Shurian/Frost/Soul and they were all town.
Things only slowly got better later on.

Also lol. As long as I could perform my night action I was unkillable at night. I could just keep healing myself off others and then vig someone.

Blood DK with the Human racial passive is super strong.

@Vulgard

Shurian’s read on Luxy is one of the better and deeper reads here and I’m willing to townread Shurian for that read alone. I’m not certain how good he is at fabricating reads as scum, but if Marson is any indication, he cannot fabricate a deep read very well.

I’m actually surprised I didn’t misclear him.

[Geyde]

Read my god tier play this game

[Jane]

D1 I was scumreading you for clearing Magnus lol.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

Would you believe me if I told you I have no idea what to think about Soul’s read and the fact he selected me over anyone else?

…Given the fact he was town, I still have no idea.

@Vulgard

I don’t think Luxy would get killed for scumreading Magnus.

Omega fucking oof.

@Vulgard

Bruh, CFD back onto Soul?

Squid is hyper town for this.

Correctly clearing Squid.

@Vulgard

I feel like scumsoul would try hard to get wagon off of himself when votes are so scattered

And so is Marshal, but Marshal a little less because it’s not super AI to say that (might be more AI if Soul really is scum).

Clearing Marshal for some reason? I’m terrible at reading Marshal, wtf. I keep clearing him for stupid reasons.

@Vulgard

I’m not sure if I mentioned that, but I really like Marshal’s tone this game, his conviction and initiative. Who he’s voting here doesn’t really matter to me, I just think he’s town because of the way he’s posting.

I think I’m going to ask other people to read Marshal in future games.

@Vulgard

I feel like he’s scumreading me for all the wrong reasons. I have no idea how he reached this conclusion considering he played with me several times. Mind walking me through that? I don’t understand this in hindsight and I didn’t understand it back then. That makes me think it was a forced read, like he was obligated to scumread me because it suited his agenda. @PokemonKidRyan

Wtf. I either have really accurate reads or super off reads. No in-between. This one was hyper accurate.

@Vulgard

Now that I’m reading these posts, they feel like agenda.

Finally re-evaluating Marshal. At least I learned to re-evaluate I guess?

@Vulgard

He doesn’t explain the ‘second voter on Frost is likely to be scum’ at all. Then, he ‘read the thread and realized Blizer was the second voter.’ I personally believe that was a load of crap and he must have seen the votes before making that read. The progression just doesn’t sound genuine. ‘The second voter on Frost is probably scum but I don’t know who it is.’ ‘Oh it’s Blizer. How convenient. I was scumreading him already. vote ’ I’m just… I really think this isn’t very genuine. I townread Marshal based on conviction earlier but this conviction feels like agenda now that I’m re-reading.

@Vulgard

It’s pretty hard to read isaac so imma take a jab at shurian.

In hindsight this is terrible. He doesn’t focus on the flipped superpower, claiming it’s hard to read him. It sounded okay back then, but now it just looks scummy.

@Vulgard

Ive been looking at shuri’s ISO.

I didn’t really get much our of it, but i did see a few things that felt… fake.

I do want to see what isaac does here, but imma quote some of the things.

Hesitant to take a stance, just like PKR later.

@Vulgard

Extreme reaching. Maybe he was going for the ‘people will townread me because my reads are unique’, but I just think this is forced.

@Vulgard

well alrighty then

/vote shurian

if this is a town flip, its gotta be hail or isaac. pilica should nightkill isaac, and if he’s legit, he redirects it to hail.

Notice how he says ‘ hail or isaac ’. He keeps his options open. He wants to be able to kill Hail instead of Isaac. This looks terrible given isaac’s flip that also spews Hail as 99% town. Marshal shoehorned ‘hail scum’ into a universe where Shurian is town. This looks like he was trying to set up a string of town deaths.

I’m starting to think this is not too scummy to be scum. This D2 ISO has been a pitfall after a pitfall, and it’s not like Marshal is a bad player. At least some of this must have been deliberate. I don’t think it’s about ‘incorrect reads’ anymore.

@Vulgard

Yeah i really don’t like blizer.

He is white-knighting shurian. Even if shurian is town(and i see now way in which shuri is town) blizer is still white knighting.

I honestly am feeling more confident about blizer scum than shuri scum, but shuri is likely the superpower and that’s scum KP

And the fact he keeps pushing on Blizer just makes me want to lynch him more. There is a town vs scum thunderdome and instead of trying to resolve it, he keeps talking about Blizer, as if trying to distract us while he refuses to take a strong stance. This feels like he is trying to poison us with agenda while we discuss the thunderdome.

@Vulgard

shurian is 100% fake townslipping here.

Zero consideration for town Shurian.

@Vulgard

I also want to know where the fuck @PokemonKidRyan is

…Why do I feel like this is scum talking to scum? Marshal doesn’t even seem to be scumreading PKR, he just says ‘get over here’ and leaves things at that. This doesn’t look like he wants PKR around so he can solve the guy’s alignment. It also feels a little random but that’s less AI.
Maybe it’s confbias speaking to me right now, I just get a bad vibe from that given everything beforehand in Marshal’s ISO.

@Vulgard

if geyde is alive tommorow he is lockscum and will be lynched

Note that Geyde also flipped town. So if Geyde was saved somehow, Marshal would currently be trying to lynch him. And Geyde was almost certainly town.

@Vulgard

and we CFD’d off of soul which in hindsight was the wrong move

‘I’ll acknowledge the bad move but won’t acknowledge my involvement, that’ll make me look bad.’
I know this is NAI but hhhhhhhhh.

…First I townread Marshal for terrible reasons, then I completely dunk on him upon re-eval.

I guess my re-eval is better than my reads these days?

Also I’ve had some pretty good ‘these two people are interacting scum’ reads lately.

[DatBird]

U and Shuri were really good this match

[Vulgard]

@Shurian perhaps we should hydra in the future
team Shurgard

[astand]

Don’t worry about D1 reads, they aren’t supposed to matter much in a bigger picture.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

N2: tripwire Pilica(to catch scum occers it redirectors) Magnus visited.

I’m Dwarf Hunter Beast Mastery. I tripwired Hail n2.

Magnus and Marshal are now thunderdomed.

I still have no idea why you two thunderdomed each other as scum.

@Vulgard

Fuck’s sake, what is wrong with y’all?

It kinda feels like Marshal and Magnus screwed up their fakeclaims, making them contradict each other, but that’s a preflip and preflips are bad.

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I WAS A GOD AT ASSOCIATION THIS GAME AFTER MY TERRIBLE D1 MY GOD

[Marshal]

i stand that the only reason that i was scumread was because i had to hardpush the entire scumteam’s agenda d2.

[Vulgard]

I think my IQ this game progressively increased from 5 to 500 as the game went on

[Vulgard]

@Marshal

i stand that the only reason that i was scumread was because i had to hardpush the entire scumteam’s agenda d2.

And I feel bad for you given how the other scumteam played.
They basically did nothing most of the time.

[Vulgard]

I think if we didn’t lynch the superpower d2 this would’ve gone a lot worse.