SFoL 16 - Return the Blue Dragon (Hosted by Wolfy and Co-Hosted by Ashe) - Day 2 16/16

Also really wish i had rolled a unseen class tbh

ABSOLUTELY not
If youā€™re going into jail you should be put in with the intention to be killed off.
We canā€™t waste time or the blue dragon will get majority much more quickly. It will also allow time for the druid/electrocutioner to set up for their multi-kill. (assuming one is in the game.)

Was just trying to put a solution theres got to be a way to prove im not converted also i really need to start rethinking my own merc starts i honestly didnā€™t have a fake claim as merc

There is absolutely no mechanical way. You cannot be trusted. It would be a bad play to leave you alive without a good reason to.

What about the nightwatch cant we have them on me just trying to figure something out plus if hippo dies i can offer someone who gets confirmed a contract (last msg from me for the day going to bed night)

I think PKR wasnā€™t converted because their actions are Unseen actions in my opinion. Unless Orange is Unseen and this is just a proactive BD push, but I donā€™t think it would happen this early.

Also, donā€™t CS me. Thatā€™s a terrible idea. As scummy as it sounds, coming from me.

Why donā€™t you want to be CSā€™d?

Because I donā€™t want Enforcer to die.

Good answer

Wait just relized what i put may seem like ill just throw and let them die i mean if im somehow still alive and didnt guard

Iā€™m currently at school and having a quick read to catch up. Iā€™ll do a count later, but response to your question about the merc

Yes. Contract does receive feedback that they were protected.

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@Hippolytus Then you were guarded, yeah?

Strong Unseen reads: Marluxion, Insanity
Lean Unseen reads: Orangeandblack5, Sam17z, Vulgard, PokemonKidRyan
Null: Everyone I didnā€™t mention
Neutral: N/A
Lean Blue Dragon reads: Techwolves, Hippolytus, Parfait
Strong Blue Dragon reads: N/A

Even if Hippolytus confims for Techwolves and no one visited Hippolytus this night, then thatā€™s not enough backing for this Merc+contract claim and will be suspected for The Negotiator and The Insurgent.

I believe unless this is convincing us all, Insanity have confirmed Orangeā€™s class type.

Parfait only responded with emoji and even though that says ā€œhmm suspiciousā€ but thatā€™s not very insightful and I see that as lurking.

Even though Vulgard is against Orangeā€™s lynch, his approach of D2 for having more information may come for better or worse he do keep his cards on his hands like I do at the moment.

While Sam17z deals half with and without on Orangeā€™s wagon with lurking and contributing time from time, heā€™s my first null-unseen lean to me mainly he sympatize with neutral that is not confirmed yet.

Marluxion is leading Orangeā€™s wagon (I could be mistaken) and we gained lot of information for D2, no small feat he didnā€™t do on his own so he wonā€™t take all the credit, nevertheless heā€™s strong unseen read to me.

PokemonKidRyan may be pushing Orange little too hard on me taste, but itā€™s not maliciously intended.

Am I missing someone?

Marl is actually leading the wagon on Tech now though.

We actually lose nothing from killing Tech. The only potential loss is one night of guard on Hippo (and that only matters if Hippo is important Unseen). Tech can actually still win if dead, too.

Iā€™d like to see PKRā€™s take on this, but if I were to choose today, I would either jail and execute Tech or lynch them. If this is converted Merc and doesnā€™t get lynched or jailed, they can kill at night. We donā€™t want that.

We could let Orange prove himself via CS, but thatā€™s potentially sacrificing one more Unseen to confirm Orangeā€™s claim. And if Tech is somehow not converted yet, they will be converted tomorrow, as long as thereā€™s doubt about lynching him. Soldier is a very powerful convert.

You were meant to say you cared loads about my survivability so I realised you were my merc but town didnā€™t start a fucking lynch mob :sob:.

Yes he is my merc, my dumb poll was me trying to find out who he was. Thanks for outting him marl, he is just a newer player and had done absolutely nothing scummy.

If anyone doesnā€™t believe he is my merc please please vote me so he can kill you tonight. If heā€™s BD like some of you suggest it wont matter anyway :blush:

Unless someone have visited you first night, we canā€™t confirm this relationship.

The problem is, Tech could be the convert. And Soldier is a very powerful converted class. You have no way of proving heā€™s still Merc until tonight.

Vulgard is right, for all our paranoia can shows - Techwolves can be pretty much the Insurgent.

Iā€™m voting for Orange, not tech. We just need to actually consider Tech the threat that he is though.

If Hippo says he didnā€™t guard we should kill him tonight via Kidnapper

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We could formulate a plan to confirm him as Merc tonight, but itā€™s a gamble because if heā€™s Soldier, thatā€™s potentially two dead Unseen.