SFOL 34: FE Echoes I - (Deliverance Wins!)

Ok then the only other explanation we have is a double mindwarp on two players who the evils happened to both guess correctly were investigatives AND also checked each other the same night.

I think Occam’s razor applies here and Sarun is simply scum

Also they can’t even accuse each other yet so you can’t use non-aggressiveness as an example

But like… they can still be at each other’s throats and neither of them were.

One mindwarp would be enough.

I wonder why everyone calls it mindwarp while its clearly thundering thunder 3:

To be honest, with multiple mindwarps and redirections out, I’ve been rethinking Eevee’s posts with their playstyle in mind and I think I know exactly what happened.

Everyone here has reduced our interactions into two scenarios.

  1. I am scum and Eevee has caught me in the act.
  • This scenario here is impossible for two reasons here. I did not visit Sam17z the first night and if this were true then Eevee would still be at my throat and pushing me here, especially as I have repeatedly stated that I did not visit Sam17z and I visited them instead. Were I scum here Eevee would not have assessed this situation as a TvT.
  1. I am town and I caught Eevee’s mechanical slip.
  • This was my original thought here, however when putting Eevee’s earlier posts in mind I don’t think this is necessarily what happened here. I don’t exactly see scum!Eevee pushing a mislynch this early in the game and had they been scum they would have seriously kept on with the push as not only would they have the upper hand here, but it’d also be terrible to back down, especially once I flip.

My guess is that rather scenario 3 happened here as it’s the only one where both of our actions make sense.

  1. Both of us are town, Eevee is an easily confirmed Nobility role and attempted to reaction test me, except that since I had mechanical information on them then this test backfired spectacularly.
  • This is exactly what I’m thinking happened right now. Had either scenario 1 or 2 happened then Eevee would automatically hard push on me due to us being in opposing factions locked in a thunderdome. However, since he immediatelly backed off and then claimed to have townread me then scenario 2 is downright impossible. This scenario is the only one that makes sense without mechanical shenanigans in mind as that’s the only place where Eevee’s actions and reactions here make sense.

Conclusions here.

  • Eevee is not an Arcanist.
  • Eevee, however, is also town.
  • Lynch all Liars does not apply here.

Oof… :tired_face:

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Well… I would leave the situation as is for now. We can wait for a Luthier to flip to confirm the possibility of a mind warp later. (We can wait for this situation later)

However can I discuss the lack of Axes being chosen?
Whats the reason for being so distant from Axes? Because of my post saying (I doubt they’ll SWORDS then really choose swords)?

Why the huge intake of lances and swords?

Shuri, double bluff is quite easy to see here.

I’m leaning lances myself. But I want to wait until more people check in.

Weapon Voters Count
Swords PKR :crown: , Eevee, Hjasik, Tarik, Cube, Bazinga, Shurian 8/12
Lances Twilight, Squid, Poke, Litten, Pug, Insanity, Sarun, Noz 8/12
Axes Celeste, Taetae 2/12

9 hours remain before the battle ends.

Earlier when the vote on Sword was supermajority.

I dont know man
I rather daresay that we get to know how much the Deliverance likes WIFOM in this particular battle, as well as angleshoot the evils

I think you are right here. I admit I just followed our king . But I called that it maybe a double bluff. /vote lances .
Also I think that eevee is more likely scum or you are both town. My insists say that.

Is anyone around rn?

I ma here

Hello mate, how are you going.

Is there anyone you think is evil right now?

As I said between sarun and eevee i think eevee is more likely scum. But they can be both town and just mindwarped. I also have an idea on someone else’s role.

Reads over night results.
It will save you more times then hurt.

I actualy am proud of you, lel.

Nice one, I like this theory, except I did really check you last night.
And that’s what makes it weird.
Very weird, but possible.

It’s funny how easy it was to tell good from weaker players due to this conflict, basing just if they base opinion blindly on actions or try to figure stuff out.

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I would still go with swords since lances had majority before kings intervention