SFoL 51 - Cult Chat

Waz only has one shot. We have to get this right.

Is there any margin for error? Any at all?

@Wazza you pretty much need to bus me

Should I bus you?

Bus me yeah

You can’t afford not to

if your class is supposed to know the arbiter now

if you don’t call BS on Arete
the real arbiter will out, and both of you will be deader than dead.

Unless Sulit’s flip was altered and Jake’s a neutral invest, there’s nothing else he can be and still be S/I.

I already did it.

(FTR, I do think it’s moderately likely that Sulit’s flip was altered.)

Please update my logs to read:
Arete - Arbiter who had to out because you all can’t see through obvious plays

Game type: Cult

N1 - check PKR - NS

N2 - check Jake - NS

Townreads:

Maxwell: Mechanically confirmed librarian.

JaketheWolfie: Checked as NS (but could in theory be NK).

Pokemon Kid Ryan: I’m going to be honest, this is a gut read more than anything else, but PKR, despite being less active and contributive than some, still feels HoB to me. (you guys this was a soft that I NS-checked them.)

Possessed: Seems like basically locktown, in my opinion, based on their general solvey attitude, their repeated attempts to drive the thread motion forward, and their general attempts at logically justifying their reads, even when I disagree with them.

Geyde: Seems like a Righteous Emperor so far. Some of his choices for Imperial Nightchat feel a little odd to me, but he’s been acting quite solvey and trying to keep the thread motion going. The pointing out the lack of a counterwagon on Cheeki, then pushing the lynch anyway, was kind of weird.

Magnus: Hardclaiming doesn’t confirm you but I don’t think scum would hardclaim so early and with so little pressure on them. Then again, Wazza.

Nullreads:

Andrej: Null read.

Kai: Null read.

JaketheWolfie: I’m pretty sure they just actually haven’t posted anything.

Bluestorm: Null read, entire Iso consists of four memey posts. Below Captain on this read list because ‘has done things, but those things are memes’ is a worse sign than ‘just hasn’t done anything.’

Scumreads:

Lymphoma: Are we just going to ignore how they literally claimed Unseen day 1? Frankly, this reminds me a lot of his play in FoL 22, where he was a Warlock. I don’t think he’d draw nearly so much negative attention to himself if he were Cultseen/NK, but I think it’s very likely that he’s a scumneut once again. They were a little better in night chat, but I don’t want to give them a free pass for literally outing as evil.

Datbird: I still don’t like his Iso – almost all fluff, very little actually contributing content. He did in fact at some point give a readlist but other than that I’m not seeing much in the way of attempts to solve, which given his post count there should be more than zero of. I think Datbird/Andrej is a potential scumteam, given how quickly he came in at the end when it looked like Andrej might be the lynch.

Townreads:

Maxwell: Mechanically confirmed librarian.

Possessed: Seems like basically locktown, in my opinion, based on their general solvey attitude, their repeated attempts to drive the thread motion forward, and their general attempts at logically justifying their reads, even when I disagree with them.

Sulit: Probably town. I don’t think scum would randomly draw attention to themself for no reason by pushing on the towncore, and being wrong doesn’t make you scum.

Geyde: Seems like a Righteous Emperor so far. Some of his choices for Imperial Nightchat feel a little odd to me, but he’s been acting quite solvey and trying to keep the thread motion going. The pointing out the lack of a counterwagon on Cheeki, then pushing the lynch anyway, was kind of weird.

Magnus: Hardclaiming doesn’t confirm you but I don’t think scum would hardclaim so early and with so little pressure on them.

Wazza: Hardclaiming still doesn’t confirm you but I don’t really see scum outing specifically to hardclaim ‘only one neut’ when that could so easily be disproven, and Fortune Teller is pretty hard to fake.

Pokemon Kid Ryan: I’m going to be honest, this is a gut read more than anything else, but PKR, despite being less active and contributive than some, still feels HoB to me.
Nullreads:

Andrej: Null read. The Arbiter is supposed to check them tonight; if they’re still alive they’re not cultseen.

Kai: Null read.

Scumreads:

Lymphoma: Are we just going to ignore how they literally claimed Unseen day 1? Frankly, this reminds me a lot of his play in FoL 22, where he was a Warlock. I don’t think he’d draw nearly so much negative attention to himself if he were Cultseen/NK, but I think it’s very likely that he’s a scumneut once again. They were a little better in night chat, but I don’t want to give them a free pass for literally outing as evil.

Datbird: I still don’t like his Iso – almost all fluff, very little actually contributing content. He did in fact at some point give a readlist but other than that I’m not seeing much in the way of attempts to solve, which given his post count there should be more than zero of. I think Datbird/Andrej is a potential scumteam, given how quickly he came in at the end when it looked like Andrej might be the lynch.

Wazza - hardclaims I’m not the Arbiter; is basically lockscum.

Bluestorm: Somehow saw me, the Arbiter, visiting HTM.

BTW based on Echoes I think PKR might be the NK.

Geyde :crown: - King
DatBird - Squire
HTM - Governor
Maxwell - converted Librarian -> Apostle
Sulit - Headhunter?
JakeTheWolfie - Arbiter
Lymphoma - Duelist
WazzaAzza - Seeker faking Fortuneteller
Possessed - Coroner
Andrej
AreteSlashStars - CL
BlueStorm - Watchman
PokemonKidRyan
Kai_5 - Bard
Magnus - Warden
Cheeki - Eccentric

Between Andrej and PKR, the most likely scenario is that one is NK and one is Druid. It’s also possible that one is NK and one is neut, with Sulit having been Druid.

I’m really sorry for fucking this up, you all.

it’s fine
We got arbiter out of of it.
If anything, Waz and I seem as towny as ever.

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Who’s Arbiter? Jake?

Also, YOU LITERALLY SAVED THE GAME FOR US, WTF.

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Has to be, according to Arete
Arete, please post detailed and comprehensive reasoning proving jake to be the arbiter.

We know from Wazza’s thing which specific BD classes are in the game. Jake claimed S/I, and at this point the only unclaimed S/I is the Arbiter. The only other options are:
-Jake is NK faking S/I at the point when I wasn’t quite confirmed cult
-Jake is Neutral Invest and Sulit’s flip was altered
-I’m legitimately not sure if there are others.

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