SFoL 51 - Cult Chat

Yes, you can still accept this.

I accept it then.

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Please update my logs to read the following:
Current notes for the log network:
-Still deciding on my N1 action
-Still working on my readlist
-I’m in Imperial chat right now, Lymphoma and PKR are also there. Lymphoma is acting even more like a scumneut than he was yesterday.

I really need to figure out what I’m claiming
I might just go Socialite with semi-random results, updated as necessary based on what people actually claim.
There’s some risk Maxwell will die N1, so I need to have non-awful network logs.

Oh, neat, Maxwell’s logs are updated. For obvious reasons, I’m not going to request a N1 use of Shutdown.

I do find it quite funny that both of us were networked lmao.

Please Update my logs to state:

Hey there you two!
I am the Fortune Teller as you may or may not know, I kinda outed it yesterday. Tomorrow I will be instantly checking to see if we have 2 neutrals or not.
Also, do not use Shutdown tonight, save it for tomorrow, if you die, you die so be it. But wasting is already seems pretty pointless.
I haven’t read anything by the way.

The Cult Chat Thread and the Less Efficient Cult Chat Thread

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Please update my logs to read:

If you’re seeing this, I died N1. I’m in a log network right now, hence the fact that I seem to be addressing two other people.

Well, since both of you have claimed (with Maxwell obviously being proven), and Wazza’s class looks reasonably hard to fake, I might as well claim as well.
I’m the Socialite. I’m going to be honest, I’m not totally sure how to use this class effectively – do I just match people at random and wait for one of them to die? I guess since I have Wazza’s claim I could try to match against people to find the MM/CL. I want to save Faction Links at least until I can see how D2 plays out.

I’m still working on my Read List For If I Die.

I’m currently in Imperial chat with Geyde, Lymphoma, and PKR. Lymphoma is acting like a scumneut.

Imperial chat wants to push Cheeki. Given that Cheeki is not in the basement, I’m all for it.

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@Wazza pinging you in case you wanted to use a night ability before the night ends. I don’t think it’s particularly improbable that I’m going to end up being deduced, so it might be better to Seeker it up early?

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/Gaze Possessed

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Please update my logs to read:
If you’re seeing this, I died N1. I’m in a log network right now, hence the fact that I seem to be addressing two other people.

Well, since both of you have claimed (with Maxwell obviously being proven), and Wazza’s class looks reasonably hard to fake, I might as well claim as well.
I’m the Socialite. I’m going to be honest, I’m not totally sure how to use this class effectively – do I just match people at random and wait for one of them to die? I guess since I have Wazza’s claim I could try to match against people to find the MM/CL. I want to save Faction Links at least until I can see how D2 plays out.

I’m currently in Imperial chat with Geyde, Lymphoma, and PKR.
Townreads:

Maxwell: For reasons that should be obvious if you’re reading my logs flipping upon death, this is more or less mechanically confirmed BD, and could potentially prove as much to up to two people (albeit at the cost of potentially polluting the log network).

Possessed: Seems like basically locktown, in my opinion, based on their general solvey attitude, their repeated attempts to drive the thread motion forward, and their general attempts at logically justifying their reads, even when I disagree with them.

Geyde: Seems like a Righteous Emperor so far. Some of his choices for Imperial Nightchat feel a little odd to me, but he’s been acting quite solvey and trying to keep the thread motion going.

Wazza: I have his claim from the Archive; it seems to be a class that would be relatively difficult to fake, and fits with their opening yesterday. It bothers me how they had a strong opening followed by radio silence, but I don’t think that negates the strength of the opening, especially since time zones are a thing.

Magnus: The interaction with Maxwell still feels kind of off, but I don’t think they’d be nearly aggressive enough to soft their class so intensely as scum, since if for whatever reason they found themself unable to fake the class they had intended to they’d have to way to explain it.

Nullreads:

Pokemon Kid Ryan: Null read based on posts in thread yesterday, but I’m elevating them a little higher than the others based on their contributions in Imperial Nightchat.

Frostwolf: Null read, tending slightly townie because the few posts we’ve seen from them have generally been contributive.

Andrej: Null read.

Captain: Null read, hasn’t posted anything except a confirm of receiving their card.

Fireslol: I’m pretty sure they just actually haven’t posted anything.

Bluestorm: Null read, entire Iso consists of four memey posts. Below Captain on this read list because ‘has done things, but those things are memes’ is a worse sign than ‘just hasn’t done anything.’

Scumreads:

Cheeki: We discussed this one a lot in Imperial chat; the consensus we reached is that if it’s an Unseen game, there are decent odds of Cheeki being the Mastermind. More generally, a lot of their reads seem poorly thought out – our impression is of someone trying to get towncred by doing reads, when all they’re really doing is going with the town consensus.

HTM: I feel like HTM is being substantially quieter than they usually are as Town, though admittedly I haven’t seen their scumgame. Still, the unusual quietness and distinct lack of effort at solving feel scummy to me.

Lymphoma: Are we just going to ignore how they literally claimed Unseen day 1? Frankly, this reminds me a lot of his play in FoL 22, where he was a Warlock. I don’t think he’d draw nearly so much negative attention to himself if he were Cultseen/NK, but I think it’s very likely that he’s a scumneut once again. They were a little better in night chat, but I don’t want to give them a free pass for literally outing as evil.

Datbird: I really don’t like his Iso – almost all fluff, very little actually contributing content. He did in fact at some point give a readlist but other than that I’m not seeing much in the way of attempts to solve, which given his post count there should be more than zero of.

Maxwell was converted to the Cult!

WazzaAzza could not investigate Possessed properly!

@Maxwell quick request, wait a bit to add someone to the slower cult chat log network until I figure out what my N1 logs are.

Also, I’m not sure if I’m the one who’s supposed to say this, but I want Library of Corax and Echoes of Anstreim for Maxwell’s cult alts. (Since as far as I can tell this is the only valid set, that shouldn’t be too surprising.)

Please update my logs to read the following:

I’m in a log network right now, hence the fact that I seem to be addressing two other people.

Well, since both of you have claimed (with Maxwell obviously being proven), and Wazza’s class looks reasonably hard to fake, I might as well claim as well.
Arete - Socialite
N1 - Magnus and Wazza - no match. I checked Magnus since we were sussing them as MM/CL yesterday, but not so much that an investigation would be a waste. Obviously Shadowy Presence is a thing (a thing I admittedly forgot about) but it’s pretty common for MM’s to claim invest.

I was placed in Imperial chat with Geyde, Lymphoma, and PKR night 1; we agreed that Cheeki was acting suspicious.
Townreads:

Maxwell: For reasons that should be obvious if you’re reading my logs flipping upon death, this is more or less mechanically confirmed BD, and could potentially prove as much to up to two people (albeit at the cost of potentially polluting the log network).

Possessed: Seems like basically locktown, in my opinion, based on their general solvey attitude, their repeated attempts to drive the thread motion forward, and their general attempts at logically justifying their reads, even when I disagree with them.

Geyde: Seems like a Righteous Emperor so far. Some of his choices for Imperial Nightchat feel a little odd to me, but he’s been acting quite solvey and trying to keep the thread motion going.

Wazza: I have his claim from the Archive; it seems to be a class that would be relatively difficult to fake, and fits with their opening yesterday. It bothers me how they had a strong opening followed by radio silence, but I don’t think that negates the strength of the opening, especially since time zones are a thing.

Magnus: The interaction with Maxwell still feels kind of off, but I don’t think they’d be nearly aggressive enough to soft their class so intensely as scum, since if for whatever reason they found themself unable to fake the class they had intended to they’d have to way to explain it.

Nullreads:

Pokemon Kid Ryan: Null read based on posts in thread yesterday, but I’m elevating them a little higher than the others based on their contributions in Imperial Nightchat.

Frostwolf: Null read, tending slightly townie because the few posts we’ve seen from them have generally been contributive.

Andrej: Null read.

Captain: Null read, hasn’t posted anything except a confirm of receiving their card.

Fireslol: I’m pretty sure they just actually haven’t posted anything.

Bluestorm: Null read, entire Iso consists of four memey posts. Below Captain on this read list because ‘has done things, but those things are memes’ is a worse sign than ‘just hasn’t done anything.’

Scumreads:

Cheeki: We discussed this one a lot in Imperial chat; the consensus we reached is that if it’s an Unseen game, there are decent odds of Cheeki being the Mastermind. More generally, a lot of their reads seem poorly thought out – our impression is of someone trying to get towncred by doing reads, when all they’re really doing is going with the town consensus.

HTM: I feel like HTM is being substantially quieter than they usually are as Town, though admittedly I haven’t seen their scumgame. Still, the unusual quietness and distinct lack of effort at solving feel scummy to me.

Lymphoma: Are we just going to ignore how they literally claimed Unseen day 1? Frankly, this reminds me a lot of his play in FoL 22, where he was a Warlock. I don’t think he’d draw nearly so much negative attention to himself if he were Cultseen/NK, but I think it’s very likely that he’s a scumneut once again. They were a little better in night chat, but I don’t want to give them a free pass for literally outing as evil.

Datbird: I really don’t like his Iso – almost all fluff, very little actually contributing content. He did in fact at some point give a readlist but other than that I’m not seeing much in the way of attempts to solve, which given his post count there should be more than zero of.

@Maxwell feel free to add people to the log network right now. Don’t add Magnus, if I was wrong about what their class type was I’ll be outed.

Whose logs would we collectively like to be able to see? I’m thinking Possessed would be a decent one, and if there’s anyone besides Magnus who’s scumreading Maxwell they’d be good too.

If either of you are online, one of you should maybe start a counterwagon – right now it looks kind of weird how there isn’t one, and I don’t want Cheeki to be cleared on that basis.

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