[SFoL] 52 Clash Of Cults - The Blue Dragon are Victorious!

[SirDerpsAlot]

Anyways its almost midnight for me so I need to head to bed

[Luxy]

@Alice

I still think Ozz’s probs BD from this, tbh. Don’t think a player at his level would be trying to attract so much negative attention to himself like this as scum.

Alice’s first post and entry to the thread is defending low hanging fruit. I would fully expect Alice to enter the thread with content posts rather than memeing, however, instantly defending someone like ozz, which she would go on to push on day 2 is interesting.

@Alice

For Kyo I’m kind of TR’ing him for being so adamant with his ideas and focusing the conversation on ideas rather than defend himself. Looks to me more like a flailing BD than scum.

Kind of disagree with Arete a bit as their posts look organic even if they aren’t arriving at any conclusions. Last SFoL I hosted their posts were very agenda-y and their progression was terrible, so basically just read them by how they’re making their reads.

Tele’s basically my biggest concern rn.

I basically have written my reads down in my logs and this is pretty much my main thoughts on Tele.

(Jump to this post its big) Alice scumreading Tele makes sense for her to check her that night. Her read on Kyo is valid and doesn’t feel like TMI to me.

@Alice

Not liking Jgo either, tbh.

So far he really isn’t interacting with anyone here and looks flightly. Kind of see that he has a chance of being a Cultist going UTR.

Alice suspects Jgo from day one. It makes sense she would push him day two after the Ozz fiasco.

@Alice

Repeatedly claiming scum and then basically telling PKR off. He’s basically BD or a Cultist with huge balls.

This is the clear of ozz I’m not sure off. Clears like these, which happen on 8 posts in Alice’s game, seem too quick and almost an attempt to get towncred.

@Alice

I’m reading Jake BD as the same manner that I’m reading Kyo BD.

Townreads Jake for his defence of his ideas.

@Alice

I liked Dat’s entrance, though he’s been trending downwards since then.

Agreed. However, Dat has picked up some slack today.

@Alice

Kind of having mixed thoughts on PKR rn. That post reeked scum!PKR all over it but at the same time I liked his emotional response to Ozz’s scumclaiming.

If Alice was scum, I don’t think she’d kill Pkr, meaning most likely, she isn’t Corax cult in my book.
(Going on the assumption that Corax eradicated).

@Alice

Eh, I think he’s BD from tone.

Alice townreads Derps day one.

@Alice

Oh honey.

But still if you don’t manage to confirm yourself later on I’m still for executing you as your earlier posts was terrible.

If Alice was so sure Tele was scum, would she invest her?

@Alice

Usually I don’t try much d1 because I’m better at analyzing stuff rather than producing content from nothing. If I live to d2 or later I can usually solve games pretty easily which is why I always get fearkilled n1.

Alice posted a lot on Day 1 considering she made this post. Possibly setting up for if she needed to go inactive to stop herself from incriminating herself?

@Alice

So basically, Hja’s pretty much obvtown from how they went after DatBird.

Very quick to clear hjasik as well.

@Alice

Yep, had a good TR on you from your push on Kyo. This derp clear seals it.

The ‘derpclear’ of Vulgard really felt like pocketing to me, and was the first thing to make really not trust Alice a la my push on her at the start of day two.

@Alice

I’m kind of treating Vulgard as an IC for today. Would SF or barrier him to prevent conversions tonight.

WIFOM, but its the quick clear I don’t like.

@Alice

I would hold off lynching Tele for a sec and don’t think they’re a target worth of occupying rn either. I have mech info that points to them being a likely Priest, tbh. Can’t post now as I’m busy.

Mechanical info revealed.

@Alice

Pretty sure Vul/Tele is a TvT. This really isn’t Vul’s wolf game from what I remembered in FEFM and I kind p sure that Tele is an actual Priest by now.

Reads Vulgard as town still on day 2. This is good to keep in mind to see shifts in Alice later on, if any,

@Alice

Would go for players that are going UTR rn when I have more time as I was suspicious of PKR and Sulit, but both of them died last night and flipped. Rn I have Vul/Nap/Luxy/Magnus/Hja in my towncore and Derps/Jake/Arete close by.

Should Magnus really be in a town core just because he claimed hunter. Also note that Derps is now townread even though she scumread him yesterday, this is by far the weirdest 180 given Derp’s bad posting since the start of the day.

@Alice

BD

Vulgard
H_Hja
Luxy
Magnus
Napoleon

SirDerpsALot
Jakethewolfie
AreteSlashStars
Ozzkozz

Marshall
Kai_5
DatBird
FrostWolf103
SoulShade55er

Jgoes
Italy

Cult

Basically, where I’m at rn. Would focus on Jgoes and Italy rn. Jgoes just sheeping onto Tele with no progression and then wanting me to out my class reeks rolefishing and Italy’s pop-ins are just shit.

I agree with the BD reads, except Magnus should be lower. She was townreadin jgoes as LHF yesterday and she scumreads him.
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/sfol-52-clash-of-cults-day-2-a-blood-sacrifice-trinity/77883/1910?u=luxy
Interesting in this post she ISO’s everyone except her two scumreads.

@Alice

I decided to try some thing mechanically to see if they are legit and from my mechanical results they look to be likely a Priest here.

This makes sense.

@Alice

Didn’t Magnus bleed him? From Italy’s reaction I think this may be in the same team.

I thought Magnus beared.

@Alice

Again with this? Read my damn wall. I already had a strong TR of Vulgard d1 from how they approached Kyo by going all in the re-evaluating as they don’t have this confidence when I wolfed with them in FEFM. The derp-clear was just the cherry on top.

This kind of aggressive response to myself initially pinged me at the time, however, looking back it made sense since I accused Alice without reading the thread as I did not have much time to read.

@Alice

It’s why I didn’t want Tele or Vul to thunderdome each-other earlier on, duh.

She was quick to accept my TvT argument.

@Alice

Here’s the thing, I think you’re a legit Paladin here from how you delivered the red check and Ozz’s reaction to him being roleblocked and how he accused Vulgard felt very BD-like. If I’m correct and this was a frame then this is effectively two free mislynches for the Cult, and since we’re at 13v5 sans the King right now then this could mean an instant loss for us with no chance to recover.

Very intuitive. Alice did not blindly push Ozz after a while.

@Alice

Aggression is actually quite towny, though. Scum in general don’t push townies with this level of confidence that he was doing to Vulgard.

Defending Ozz here.

@Alice

Kind of agree. Either the game’s too easy and wolves are in the lowposters/UTR or I’m misclearing people.

She agrees with my thought there being too many cleared townies, but I don’t think Alice suspects Kai believing his reaction test to come from town.

@Alice

…can you like stop posting excuses non-stop and actually read the thread?

@Alice

Half of the players here have either not bothered to read the thread and are just posting excuses why they didn’t read or have been doing nothing but IIoA and talking about claims non-stop.

These come from a town mindset. Whether Alice can immitate that mindset as scum in this way I don’t know.

@Alice

I did play a game on MU where we had 4 wolves. 2 of them posted nothing d1 and slanked hard for the rest of the game while a third one only posted like 5 times d1 while low-posting for the rest of the game and the fourth wolf was vigged n1.

The result was that the entire thread felt way too towny we had obvious V/V wagons d1, and I had no idea who to lynch d1 to the point that everyone settled on a commonly mislynched played. I think this thread feels similar to how it went there.

If this is the situation we have here we’re all going to be kicking ourselves by the end.

@Alice

I haven’t noticed none of your posts so far. Usually you’re more of a town leader when town such as when you played in SFoL51.

Pressure on Dat which I agree with.

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Maybe I’m just paranoid about Alice, due to her skill as a player making me scared to townread her ever. Judging by her ISO, she’s made a few questionable 180s without much progression (Namely Derps and Ozz) but the overall gist I get from Alice is positive. I agree with most of her reads and her reasoning is sound. I’m inclined to lean town on her for now and pursue the theory that the scum are inactive just because this game feels unlike any other I’ve played.

On another note, Kai is feeling more towny and I’m feeling more inclined to lynch Jgoes. The only thing stopping me is the lack of resistance to a Jgoes wagon and the resistance to a Kai wagon.

[Luxy]

Problem is now they’ll convert you since they know you’re not going to bear.

[Ami]

im a bad convert. shitton of heat on me

[SirDerpsAlot]

Isn’t you flipping bd supposed to lock scum people or something?

[Ami]

perhaps

[Luxy]

Kai what do you think about Alice?

[SirDerpsAlot]

Theirs something I wanna point out but its best to wait till tomorrow, If scum didnt notice I dont want them too

[Ami]

i cannot read them for the life of me. I slot them in null and call it a day.

[Italy]

kai can’t read, confirmed BD

[Italy]

also for those wondering why I pop in, it’s mostly because i’m in two different games at once. thank you

[Magnus]

Yes.

[Magnus]

Who?

[Jane]

I think Alice is town, regardless of whether or not Kai_5 is scum. I also just found out I’ve been misspelling whether my entire life

Ozzkozz I’m not sure, I believe him for now. I’m not sure if they planned that redcheck together, but I don’t think so.

[Jane]

Jake is probably just my tunnel vision since that 80% post, so probably not a good lynch

Marshal seems scummy, but he says he “might be able to confirm himself tomorrow” if Tele is real Priest and revives someone, so I’m not sure.

Kai seems to be the best target rn, since his vote would give a lot of information, and he is a scumlean for me.

Magnus hasn’t really done a lot since claiming Hunter, and said he’s sure Derps is town D1, for whatever reason.

[Magnus]

I’ve been doing other things. Mysterious things.

[Solic]

Accused	Voters	Votes
Ozzkozz	Magnus	1/10
Kai_5	Luxy, Jgoes, Teleology	3/10
JgoesGaming	Alice	1/10
Marshal	H_Hja, Ozzkozz, Napoleon, Kai_5	4/10
Soulshade55r	DatBird	1/10
Italy	SirDerpsALot	1/10
SirDerpsALot	Marshal	1/10

[Luxy]

Derps is voting twice there Mr Solic

[Jane]

I was gonna point that out aswell, also, Alice’s vote on me and SirDerpsAlot’s supposed vote on me apparently adds up to 3 votes.

[Luxy]

Jgoes, what’s your opinion on the Marshal wagon?