[SFoL] 52 Clash Of Cults - The Blue Dragon are Victorious!

He got called out for not following his meta, so he had to go follow his meta, he had hours to plan this out, it dosent feel real to me

I donā€™t think he is capable. Let me check something real quick though

Jgoes/Kai/Arete/Derp/Napoleon - maybe Luxy, seemed to be online when Jake was doing this. Meaning that if Jake is scum one of them is likely his scum mate. However, I do think Jake is town. Luxy and Arete are cleared according to Vul and Italy respectively, and itā€™s not Derp. Jgoes/Napoleonā€¦ and Napoleon was the first one to sus out Jake. So that leaves Jgoes, who is a new player. I donā€™t think Jgoes would be capable of helping him do this, so in conclusion Jake is town. There were no potential scum mates to tell him to make that play, and he couldnā€™t make it by himself I donā€™t think. Jake is alright.

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Hello, Iā€™ve just caught up.

Iā€™m not a huge fan of the Jake wagon. It feels like scum are trying to redirect it from scum to BD.
I said earlier that I see 2 scum in the top 3 wagons. Kai and Jgo might be it.

I did scumread Jake before, and I still think heā€™s not in the clear. However, I want to lynch Jgo/Kai over him today.

Weā€™ve decided weā€™re lynching Kai, however, heā€™s at L-4 now so wait until EoD to finish him.

I feel like Vulgard is writing that spicy thing they said they had for EoD right now.

Why do you think Jgo is scum?

I want Kai lynched today and one of Soul/Wazza/Napoleon/DatBird/Hja jailed tonight.

Iā€™m holding Kai vote just in case but itā€™ll go off

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Yeah donā€™t bring the lynch any closer until EoD.

if I had to guess, kai is corax CL

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Let me analyze the redirection to Jake.

Interesting maneuver. At the time Kai was voting Jgo.

Instant sheeping.

One of the first votes that might be called ā€˜redirection.ā€™ That said Napoleon isnā€™t pushing for a Jake lynch. Itā€™s more like pressure voting.

Here comes the redirection, from Kai. Notice that the previous voters were Teleology, Hja and Napoleon respectively. That means three votes and none of them strongly pushed for a Jake lynch. Jake lynch is first strongly pushed by Kai right here, redirecting from Jgo.

Reaction testing vote. Easy to see itā€™s a reaction test if you know feedback.

Sheeping the reaction test? ā€¦Ngh.

Marshal outs his reaction test and re-votes Kai. Derps doesnā€™t.

Vote with no explanation. Feels mildly opportunistic to me.

Understandable.

Interesting vote hopping. Fine with both Kai and Jake wagon? Alternatively attempts to stay UTR by hopping on the wagons that have already gained traction no matter what they are.

Notice that he said this earlier but still joined the Jake wagon at one point. The explanation seems to be that the vote on Jake was cast after Jake said his action was successful (which it couldnā€™t have been, since the target was jailed). After that Jgo rescinded his vote.

ā€¦You come in just to say this? Youā€™ve barely contributed to the potential lynches today. I really hate this post.

Iā€™m starting to think that might be the case. Ozz, the only legit Paladin?

You first say he has to be scum and then intend to ISO him? I think it should be the other way around. Extensive reasoning before voting. You called Jake almost lock scum before, but now youā€™re backpedaling a little and saying you need to ISO?

Wow, Derps really wants a Jake lynch against all odds. Iā€™m not a fan considering he originally sheeped Kai on the Jake wagon and is now persistent about it.

Arete joins the wagon, now with proper reasoning. The ISO was an attempt to give more justification before voting Jake, butā€¦ it doesnā€™t feel BD motivated to me considering Arete called Jake almost lock scum before. Arete mightā€™ve thought voting Jake without an ISO and based on just one post would look way too scummy, so the ISO mightā€™ve been an attempt to backpedal a little.

Arete is really convinced throughout.

Same with Kai.

I like the way Teleā€™s been voting.

CONSENSUS:

I like the way Tele, Marshal and Napoleon have been voting.
I hate the way Derps, Arete, Kai and Jgo (a little less) have been voting.

My scum radar is tingling.

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Iā€™m sorry I had no idea how to make this shorter without looking like Iā€™m asspulling peopleā€™s votes and motivation.

Also my thing for EoD has been invalidated by some of the posts earlier, so itā€™s not coming.

And I also hate the way Italy hasnā€™t been voting. Italyā€™s following the thread but is very non-committal.

Accused Voters Votes
Ozzkozz Magnus 1/10
Kai_5 Luxy, Ozzkozz, Marshal, Jgoesgaming, Teleology, SirDerpsAlot 6/10
JgoesGaming Alice, Vulgard, DatBird 3/10
JakeTheWolfie H_Hja, Napoleon, Kai_5, Arete 4/10
SirDerpsAlot JakeTheWolfie 1/10

Derps has finally hopped onto my wagon as well, what do you think of that?

Iā€™m trying to figure out whether Derpsā€™ constant sheeping comes from BD or scum. It feels like he could be convinced to vote literally anyone.

I didnā€™t unvote for no reason, I unvoted because he said he got no feedback on a jailed target, and I didnā€™t know Knights donā€™t receive any feedback, once I learned that, I immediatly revoted Kai.

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He didnā€™t swap until I explained the potential information from a Kai lynch.

Reasoning is he doesnā€™t think the Jake lynch will gain enough traction before EoD. Given his conviction on Jake being scum, donā€™t you think he should be at least a little more resistant to swapping off Jakeā€™s wagon.

It seems Derps doesnā€™t want to be seen as sheeping, so he resists a little and then hops over to stay with the majority.