italy has done fucking jackshit other than claim in a towny way.
give me three reasons to TR them
ā¦I mean, I might as well claim at this point even if I kind of think itās a bad idea, at this point the damage is done.
Iām a Drunk, N1 I Happy Houred Ozz because I was scumreading him hard at that point and I really didnāt want to risk getting converted into a Cult with him as CL and messing up my progression. If I seemed confident earlier that it wasnāt an Invoker who prevented him N1 thatās why 
In a normal FoL match Iādāve been inclined to save them but I was less so given that needing to overcome death immunity is less of a thing in a game with no Mastermind and no NK.
N2 I tried to deb Kai into Derps, I obviously didnāt get any feedback for that but Iām assuming that the deb failed given that Derps claims jailed. When I said I might have a mechanical lead what I meant was that the deb would have meant that Kai was HMing Derps to Tele, and I thought it was pretty likely that Derps would have targeted Tele last night.
I realize this doesnāt mean much, but if I were Invoker Iādāve just occād/redirected Ozz again tonight to stop him from getting the check out, and also Tele can confirm that I generally donāt claim Butler/Drunk as Invoker.
- he claimed third Paladin during your āreaction testā to āCCā which is a BD thing that ToL players do.
- he had a N1 NS check on Arete and wouldnāt do that if they were on the same scum team.
- There is evidence that Italy wouldnāt claim something as basic as Paladin if they were scum because they were going to claim Alch or Merc as CL in NFoL4
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To be clear Iām not asking her to townread me, Iām specifically asking her about whether Iād claim Butler/Drunk as Invoker.
Meh, Iām just saying in general he isnāt inclined to claim normie claims like Paladin as CL
In ToL Paladin is pretty much actually the most Obvious Lazy CL claim that exists, not that that stops people.
So in other words, you were Butler who occupied Ozz, got converted N1, and then changed your claim because Mithras Invoker only has one use of occupy and itās a day ability
pally is a low risk claim.
then again it is a low reward claim so eh
also iām so used to there only be two of every class possible ugh
Iām pretty sure a converted Butler could take a Concentrated Wine alt (as Mithras Butler)? Iām still confused about how Cult points work but I think thatās a thing you can do. In any case, this is FoL, I couldāve just claimed an occ on a non-invest claim if thatās what I wanted to do.
But it makes sense thay you occupied Ozz N1. Because you and Vul were the two people who scum read Ozz D1
So you couldnāt claim a different class when you realized I knew this. You were trapped into Butler/Drunk
Also, you know what I claim as N1 Invoker most of the time and āliterally the exact class I had previouslyā isnāt it. Claiming Butler/Drunk as Invoker is dumb because it prevents you from actually getting what you need to get (e.g. occing Paladins/other important BD) done, hence the not doing it. I couldāve had a risk-free not-Butler-or-Drunk claim by just, you know, occing the person who people were asking to check me.
Iām going back to my Italy Iso now, it seems like a probably more productive line of thought than āArete reacts to a probable reaction test, people analyze their reaction.ā
ā¦He was saying an Invoker probably did it, thereād have been nothing stopping me from just buying into that.
Hmm. So i got Mithras cult down im pretty sure. Just need to figure out corax. Here are my suspects:
Kai
Hja
Wazza
- a N2 convert
Kai is not on the same team as Derp and Jgo. Iām pretty confident that Jgo is town, and Kai has just been following lynches that are way too weird for me to TR him for (like pushing Italy or Jgo) whereas Derp is pushing Italy, but it seems like a confused town vibe