[SFoL] 52 Clash Of Cults - The Blue Dragon are Victorious!

[DatBird]

ok but explain the vote

[Centuries]

there’s a time and a place for mocking around

[SirDerpsAlot]

I find Vul asking if he got a red check on him is weird

[Ozzkozz]

You are pushing Tele way too hard for a non-red check lynch. You are basing your quick-lynch tactic on the reads of a relatively new player that came across as a strong scum to you. Your bandwagon buddy backed off when Tele claimed priest, but you haven’t. You really should. You came out way too fast with this suspicion on Tele that I feel like this was an organized cult play and you were coached into doing. I think lynching Vulgard here will tell us way more about the current game than lynching Tele. Especially if we note those that are somewhat siding with Vulgard today. You know who you are.

[Ozzkozz]

It’s almost as if he was fishing so he could pull out his “I must have been framed!” or something.

[Teleology]

Derp is starting town from my perspective because he has been making an effort to get better at scum reading and even did his first ISO. I think he has been acting very towny, and I’ve played 2 games with him so I know his style pretty well i guess

[SirDerpsAlot]

Im thinking that, or a scum slip

[Vulgard]

Okay let me debunk this.

@Ozzkozz

You are basing your quick-lynch tactic on the reads of a relatively new player that came across as a strong scum to you.

Not reads. Almost all D1 posts and progression.

@Ozzkozz

You came out way too fast with this suspicion on Tele that I feel like this was an organized cult play and you were coached into doing.

I telegraphed it D1. How was it coached.

@Ozzkozz

I think lynching Vulgard here will tell us way more about the current game than lynching Tele.

Because I’m actually reading people unlike you?

@Ozzkozz

Especially if we note those that are somewhat siding with Vulgard today. You know who you are.

Siding with me on the lynch train =/= Cult. What is this logic?

[Ami]

@SirDerpsAlot

this is a scum lean for me, shooting a silent d1 would be dumb. It not even been 10 hours yet

Shooting a silent isn’t that scummy. While it is inopitmal it does remove a null read for invests to check

@SirDerpsAlot

Lux ISO

So this is my first attempt at an ISO, not sure if its gonna be any good but (gonna leave some of the things I think are super NAI out)

@Luxy

I don’t really like this post, speculation on scum kills is a fruitless effort day 1, and just appears to me as an attempt to appear solvey while not actually solving anything. Furthermore, we know scum are going to convert N1, and any kills they make will be on town because of the sheer numbers we have at the start.

I kinda agree with what Lux says here, Speculating what the cult may do n1 isnt very usefull. Slight town

@Luxy

Kyo’s opening feels unnatural to me, I have never played with him before but it feels like an attempt to appear solvey A, or B he’s a VI telling scum what not to do.

Seems to be trying to make reads, I somewhat agree, Not 100% sure on my opinion on Kyo atm tho. +Town
(Gets in an argument with Kyo about what scum would do and such, Most of it is NAI or already talked about above)

@Luxy

Kyo is backtracking here, he is now saying he meant ‘in future nights’ when he clearly said tonight.

This is a bit scummy imo, Getting something like that confused is pretty normal tbh.

@Luxy

@KyoDaz can please also state your motivation behind telling scum what you’re looking for?

I would have asked this or something similar if I hadnt seen his earlier explanation +town

@Luxy

This is setting up a mislynch, if anyone scumreads a scum and then the scum dies they’re instantly suspicious according to Kyodaz

This is mostly NAI to me, I can see both sides of the argument here.

@Luxy

I wouldn’t try meta reading someone whose scum game we haven’t seen yet.

I agree with this, Meta reading someone with no scum read is meh at best, +town (He didnt know he was scum in RRM at this point)

@Luxy

A skim of this game you appear to be very different there to here.

Main Points from Random Rolemadness are:

• Enters the Thread with a rolepost of multiple quotes from multiple people so he can easily ‘engage’ with people’s posts without actually engaging with the people thereby, saving himself of slipping.
• Quick to townread people
• Much more solvey day one into people’s posts rather than generalisations he makes here about theoretical mafia motivations and nightkills.

Overall, I’ll retract my suspicion on Kyo for now, back to Null. He could be trying to switch up his gameplay but there are stark contrasts between RR Mafia and here. I’ll put Kyo’s awkward posts in here to VI and unfamiliarity with multi-ball.

Looks into the RRM game a bit and comes up with some points, changing his stance on kyo. I think this is a good thing and they are activley trying to solve +town

@Luxy

What on earth. Datbird is accusing someone as being sus for ‘sarcasm’?

This whole thing was just Luxy not understanding a few things/Not enjoying the humor Could be scummy but probably NAI

@Luxy

Is this a scumslip?

I certainly think so. +town

@Luxy

I’m slight-leaning Ozz being town, besides his early meme-ing which I’m interpreting as NAI, he actually seems to have an interest in solving the game and stopping the meme-ing to an extent a few hours into the game.

More reads/solving, This is good. +town

@Luxy

Idk how I feel about this, kinda feels like an attempt to stop read progression. Townreads Day 1 are good IMO.

Normally I would say they are good, and I dont think they are bad here, but with two conversions you gotta be carefull tbh

So overall, I think Lux is probably town. They seem to be trying to solve and progress the game, even if they didnt get a few things or have an opposing view about a few things.

Admire the effort. However reading it I feel its poorly rushed and slapped together.

@SirDerpsAlot

I honestly dont know what to think about magnus, either their scum trying to cause confusion, or their actually just mega confused and have no idea whats going on

Hedging, says he is confused and multiball can easily do that to a newb!Scum.

@SirDerpsAlot

I mean if this is fake, real prince can take care of it

Setting up a possible misExe, fake princes have a reason to exist here as FPS. So in his ToL brain nobody would fakeclaim prince.

@SirDerpsAlot

Im confused. if Kyo was jailed what could have killed them?

More confusion, it is sorta jarring to have another scum team as a group scum.

@SirDerpsAlot

Vulgard I thought you said you were told it could go through jail?

scummy as hell. it just feels so fucking off here

@SirDerpsAlot

I feel like that similar to how Italy was playing in the NFoL

says this

@SirDerpsAlot

I dont think iv seen them play town though

then this right after. Obvious hedging is obvious

[Centuries]

@Vulgard

Because I’m actually reading people unlike you?

Ozzkozz:

tell em gamer

[Vulgard]

@Ozzkozz

It’s almost as if he was fishing so he could pull out his “I must have been framed!” or something.

There’s no framing in this setup. That’d be a dumbass move.

[Ami]

Ozz is village druggie

discuss

[Teleology]

Yeah i really don’t like Vulgard rn, and Kai is further down the scum list too

[Ozzkozz]

What the heck? WHat did you do with Tele’s D1 posts and progression if you didn’t “read” them? Telegraphed? You could have been building this since D1. You have cult chat activated that day too, don’t you? Because you’re actually reading people unlike me? I’ve read people. Maybe you need to go back and look at my posts? Siding with you equals cult? Don’t be a baby. Your strategy bores me.

[Centuries]

That would explain why he’s high on the list of people I mildly distrust right now

[Ami]

also jsyk

i use village druggie insteaed of village idiot

[SirDerpsAlot]

@Vulgard

There’s no framing in this setup. That’d be a dumbass move.

Honestly I didn’t realise that there were no frames, im gonna go look now to make sure.

[Vulgard]

/vote Ozzkozz

you’re my #2 scumread, might as well
I broke my promise to keep my vote on Tele forever I’m sad

[Ozzkozz]

Dude man! Can’t we all just get along?

[Ami]

literally all of amercia is aobbing how could you do this