SFOL 53 - Spectator Chat

It’s balanced
Just…it working on lynch is just too punishing

Didn’t expect people would just assume a lot. Though, if Blizer flips then Kyo’s flip will also be flipped alongside it, so Marshall would just be dead in the water in this occasion.

It’s what people are used to.

It’s something I use as scum often.

For example if you don’t want something to happen make it sound bad.

Closed setups inherently play on that if all people have done are open.

People are creatures of habit.

I’m going to write a very lengthy post-mortem on why the village play here was absolute garbage, tbh.

I get that I made the wolves a tad strong to compensate the lack of neutrals and conversion, but geez… The night actions here have been absolutely atrocious.

There have been several players forgetting to submit a night action at all this match, especially Frost the Noble who needs to f’ing bounty ASAP to chunk down the PoE.

Despite fact that this setup is closed and has no conversions the 3 Princesses are only using Flirt instead of WoW.

TKs have just been targetting town over and over again

Protectives have been targetting 2 kinds of people this match - either the player who’s obviously getting other protections on them and if they are going to be killed then they’ll clearly be strong-manned, or people who are in the PoE and who the wolves clearly aren’t going to kill willingly.

Like, this is without keeping the day play in mind where they let Geyde and Solic off the hook too easily and are allowing Jake to go UTR.

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I mean, how would you do good night actions in this game. It’s really really hard, especially since you have no idea what’s going on with the mechanics.

Also having a third of BD claim d1 RIGHT AFTER Arete posted the warning against claiming and the fact that everyone’s repeating what happened in LotR and getting assocations on a potential W!Kyo as true is just… mindboggling.

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Target townread players with support actions.

Target scumread players with offensive/killing actions.

I keep seeing Physicians heal consensus scumreads and PKR’s a Hunter and his targets looks like he’s rolling a dice to decide on who to use his mark on.

just form a winning PoE and target actions correctly lul

And Magnus is basically self-guarding every night.

Like, there’s no need for a heavily slanking king to self-guard.

honestly I’m pretty sure that choosing to use BPVs at night is legit one of the hardest roles to use properly

Also, Jake/Ozz/Marshall are being cleared by a lot of people over Kyo’s flip. Which is really, really, really bad.

Guards can be used on other players. King self-guarding early-game is one of the most pointless and selfish moves possible in both FoL and ToL.

yeah i know. i’m not making excuses for Magnus here.

I’m just pointing out that FoL villages have a ton of abilities that are really hard to use properly that simultaneously should be used every night and that increases the likelihood of fucked up night actions tremendously.

Of course you can make up for terrible night actions with good enough dayplay, but still.

Frost is a Noble who hasn’t bountied once.

Magnus forgot to send in a night action d1.

None of the TKs have yet to target or consider targetting a wolf.

There was a Phys who tried healing f’ing Solic n1.

Solution: Rig the rands so I always get vig and it’s not quite as embarassing.

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Much of the thread have just talked about mechanics and speculations regarding it, and several players want to lynch based on claims despite that the setup is closed.

i’m legitmiately scared of what would happen if I try to host a Mountainous 15’er on this site tbh

I mean i can sort of predict it because absolutely no Mountainous on this site has gone well
maybe it’s time to implement Marson once and for all