SFoL 58 Balance Talk Thread Revamped

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#361

I agree but pretender will never win with a survive wincon, essentially for the same reason no never does. That’s why the final five thing may actually work

#362

Sure love a death immune princess, who ruins how king works.

You don’t need a election counter class, sure have a class that see’s starting king’s faction lose but dear god not a become king wincon

#363

I think Pretender if it gets added to FOL should be practically the insurgent from HOB

#364

Pretender is just bad 4head

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#365

Make it named Insurgent 4head

#366

We only have one king election at max

#367

Pret is gone
Insurgent is a better version in every way and I don’t need both

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#368

Insurgent is a better “King counter” a class that needs to see starting kings faction lose balances out king

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#369

Now that I think about it, how does stuff like this interact with flip tailors if there are any? Does it take the tailored flip into account, or the real flip?

That seems a little difficult in a 20er but I might be wrong. As it stands I think the games are likely to go into d5-d6 at least, so Strigoi should have a decent chance of winning.

#370

You probably know this one but hehe.

Votes for King. Not sure if I mentioned this one before.

Is that the version we want to be using?

Same here.

Not sure if we want this or Gossip Aristocrat. :thinking:

#371

Order Aristocrat is easily confirmable and that’s kinda bad.