SFoL 58 Balance Talk Thread Revamped

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:51pm

But everyone is convertable, which makes things tricky

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:51pm

Even Duke (prince equivalent here)

KyoDaz · October 23, 2019, 2:51pm

Will this game roll Hand of Byzantium or Blue Dragon? 1 = HoB 2 = BD

@discobot roll 1d2

discobot · October 23, 2019, 2:51pm

2

KyoDaz · October 23, 2019, 2:52pm

It’s gonna roll Blue Dragon, calling it.

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:52pm

We shall see

DatBird · October 23, 2019, 2:52pm

No I think that was disco calling it

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:52pm

Vodka intensifies

KyoDaz · October 23, 2019, 2:52pm

I have been bestowed with the power of Margaret’s dice rolling powers.
I can assure you that was all me. And all skill.

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:54pm

The only real way to beat this team is to hard focus them after n1, like in TT games but without the other scumteam helping
They are super durable

Vulgard · October 23, 2019, 2:55pm

The thing I like about this setup is that even if you massclaim that doesn’t solve anything because:

scum can comfortably fakeclaim (even Prestige classes depending on what they have) and ‘confirm themselves’
there is a ton of moving parts so you can’t make game-winning nightplans

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:56pm

Maxwell:

Battle-Tested (Passive) - Immune to every possible form of death except a lynch or a duke execution. This passive is a form of supreme protection that overrules death immunity bypassing attacks.
Inside Seclusion (Passive) - You will appear as a class of your choice which you can inform the host at the start of the game which you would like for to investigators. You are fully immune to all investigative abilities for the entire game and will always appear as your desired class to investigators. Additionally if you are the original Arbiter and die, if and ONLY IF the current Champion is the original champion, they will become the new Arbiter. The only exception to this is a Socialite who will automatically become the new Arbiter before the Champion and the Magistrate who will do so if and only if the Arbiter is lynched during the day. Otherwise, there will never be a second arbiter, and a third is only possible with a Socialite or Magistrate in play who dies after the original Arbiter but before the original Champion.

Honestly…

It’s quite poor in comparison to Visionary

Vulgard · October 23, 2019, 2:56pm

Hey but at least the Visionary isn’t a ninja vengeful redirector.

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:56pm

They can’t convert n1 and then have a 2 night cooldown after the first convert, same as HoB
After 2nd convert, cooldown goes down to 1 night for the rest of the game
But there are a decent amount of conversion-interfering abilities in this setup

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:57pm

I get
I just see Arbiter being screwed over by massclaim as a very real possibility

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:57pm

should i give the arbiter the same promotion mechanic? @Geyde

Vulgard · October 23, 2019, 2:57pm

Poor how?

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:57pm

No
I’d just give them occ/red immunity

Maxwell · October 23, 2019, 2:57pm

Ok

Geyde · October 23, 2019, 2:58pm

Like
Team’s far less durable overall with only slight advantage in some categories