SFoL 58 Balance Talk V3

Not necessarily opposed to reducing the Prestige limit, I think it’s fine.

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Since there are 13-14 unseen slots that can rand them and only one scumslot that can

And changed the names of the Begrudged and Spiteful King accordingly

The Rebel :shield:

Neutral Social
Heaven’s Might (Passive) - You cannot be killed by players who are not members of the Unseen.
Unyielding Vengence (Passive) - All your abilities are locked and will only be usable if you are executed for treason.
Whispers of the Saved (Day) - Sends a message to a player, they will know you sent it and they can answer back. - Infinite uses
Influence of the Saved(Day) - You will be able to vote while dead for the day. - Two uses
Hex of Revengeance (Night) - Permanently frames a player who voted for your execution. - Two uses
Pay for Your Sins (Night) - Puts a curse on one of the players who voted for your execution, they will need two less votes to be executed. - One use
See the Unseen defeated at any cost.

The Revolutionary King :shield:

Neutral Special
Dynastic Cycle (Passive) - If you die, there will be a vote held to crown the next King.
Head of State (Passive) - Your vote for treason counts as two. You are immune to death at night.
Royal Pardon (Day) - Make a player unable to be voted today. This ability can only used during the first half (24 hours) of each day. Cannot target yourself. - 2 uses
Sword of Damocles (Day) - If nobody hits majority by the end of the day, then the player with the most votes will be executed. - One use
Embargo (Night) - Occupies a player and prevents all non-killing or conversion actions against them. - 2 uses
Stigmatize (Night) - Permanently frames the player, making them show up as Blue Dragon or Hand of Byzantium to faction checks or Killer to class type checks. - One use
See the Unseen defeated at any cost.

Crowned from:

  • The Rebel
  • The Resurrectionist
  • The Insurgent, providing the starting King was a Corrupted King.
  • The Senex, providing they are aligned against the Unseen.

and changed name of necromancer to resurrectionist

how?

because one of its heathens has to be my starting convert
so it can just glide on that and win for free

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It doesn’t stop people claiming. And they have a strongman kill. That bypasses jail.
Not only that their targets will be dropping down dead and one of them is guaranteed to be scum.

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what how? He has to find a kill them, if the unseen run rampant and he doesnt stop them hes not guranteed squat

It’s a kingmaking neutral that is essentially sided to BD (provided the convert is still alive) with one-time death immunity

People are going to claim either way if they aren’t informed they are a heathen.

i just find it too good in its current state. im with kyo on this one
there are lots of other good neuts in here from RotBD III and HoB III

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The Butler

Blue Dragon Offensive
Dutiful (Passive) - You are occupation and redirection immune.
Eager Service (Day) - Occupy a player until the end of the day. (2 uses)
Serve Wine (Night) - Occupy a player by getting them drunk.
Concentrated Wine (Night) - Throw a party, occupying all players who visit you tonight. (2 uses)
Intoxicated Wine (Call to Arms | Night) - Occupy a player for two nights in a row.
Defeat the Unseen and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

The Chronomancer

Blue Dragon Support
Pocket Dimension (Day) - If target member of the Blue Dragon would die tonight, delay their death for 2 nights. This will delay bleeding in addition to attacks. (3 uses)
Time Warp (Night) - Choose a player. All abilities that target them tonight will not take effect until the next night. Conversions, investigative abilities and abilities that bypass immunities or healing will not be delayed. Time Warp cannot delay a single ability multiple times.
Distort Reality (Night) - Redirect all abilities delayed by Time Warp to a player of your choice. (3 uses)
Paradox (Call to Arms | Night) - Choose a player. All other abilities used on that player tonight will automatically fail. Abilities prevented this way will be considered delayed and can be redirected with Distort Reality on the following night. (2 uses)
Defeat the Unseen and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Buffs here and there, fixed some confusing stuff.
Was Court Sorceress supposed to have Prestige or is it an oversight? I recall there was reasoning for it but I can’t remember what it was exactly. @Maxwell

I like Inq but when everyone massclaims I agree that it’s not super challenging

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Its supposed to push for people not to do it as practice, its goal isnt to shut down claims 100%.

I agree on this, informed heathens would prob be better

Not sure. If you check my updated OP, I gave her her original CtA ability back.

Added these two into the OP

I think everyone being convertible already does enough to discourage massclaiming here.

@Vulgard Giving Agent, Sheriff, Warden, and Prince just shield, not crossed swords, as they’re not guaranteed (they are unique, but only convert gets them)

and removed the shield for some convert classes with prestige that weren’t necessarily unique

Now the OP is as updated as I can possibly make it.
Lmk if you want to buff more BD convert classes @Vulgard