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absolutely not

thanks for being a backup

wait its tomorrow at one not today nice

can you end up with 3 passives as nk? because consume soul, or does that take a spot?

im willing to assume that cult isnā€™t a possibility?

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fixed

when someone subs in they have an hour to review everything. Can they coordinate in scumchat during this time?

You can only get up to 2 passives as Neutral Killer.

Passive Two Possibilities (rolled first):

  1. Mindstorm
  2. No passive

Passive One Possibilities:

  1. Mage Armor
  2. Consume Soul
  3. Cloak of Mithras
  4. Insanity
  5. Driven

Neutral Killer will always have one of the above from ā€œPassive Oneā€

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You can see the exact NK rolling process under ā€œNeutral Killer Rolling & Namingā€ -> ā€œNK Rolling Processā€

sorry I donā€™t want to mess anything up if I do get a chance to sub in

thanks for the nk clarification

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Yes.

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hooray
ding dong the townlock pop quiz is dead

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that thing was very annoying as a host in RMIV

i see only one potential problem with how we plan to handle it

but i think itā€™s a minor one, and the benefits it gives are notable

whatā€™s that?

I didnā€™t want to spam with questions so hereā€™s this instead.

Will i get an @ everytime some needs to replace out, or does it go down the backup players list?

Lets take the fools Final Prank abil, where he can use his main abil twice after he is dead. Can he resurrect himself?(thatd be poggers) Can he continue to link minds? This is presuming he gambled these.

This isnt a question or even important(its a nitpick from someone who stared at it too long) but in your main abils list chronoā€™s time warp is the main abil, when it should(probably) be alter time, the abil that was made for this.

If you have Link Minds and Warp reality or Last Rites and Channel and your converted, could you end up with double Construct Realities/Curses

Most Abils have an unseen edition and the rest are in the exception list, but I have questions about a few; If you had heal, you get drug. Does SC become Defile? Ice Ward -> Wall of Fire but does arcane empower become Shock? These things line up on the class cards but arenā€™t really similar or opposite. Bounty should become day bounty, but then changing into a day abil might cause other problems, like 3 day abils.

It says that nk can get whispers of insanity as a secondary abil. This abil isnā€™t in the official class cards, rather shape knowledge is. Shape knowledge is also in the bit about changes.

This question relies on the last one; if haemophilia is used, can shape knowledge use people who died visiting your main target? Also if haemophilia is used, will gather darknessā€™ bypass death immunity apply to visitors(main target already has di bypass)?

All back-ups will be pinged if we are in need of a replacement.

Neutrals who gamble cannot receive unique abilities - so you cannot channel or link minds

love you

You cannot end up with double Construct Reality or Curse.
ie. If you have Link Minds & Warp Reality, and you are converted, you will receive Link Minds, Warp Reality, and a single Construct Reality.

As Self-Care is in the second slot of the Physicianā€™s classcard, you will receive the second-slot ability of Herbalist, which is Defile.

As Arcane Empower is the Court Wizardā€™s Day Ability, you will recieve the Sageā€™s Day Ability upon conversion, which is Dark Rune. Magical Barrier is the first-slot ability on the Court Wizard classcard, so you will receive the first-slot ability of the Sageā€™s classcard, which is Shock.

The general rule of thumb is that first-slot abilities will become first-slot abilities, and second-slot abilities will become second-slot abilities. All exceptions to this are listed in ā€œConverted Ability Exceptions.ā€

Whispers of Insanity was recently replaced with Shape Knowledge - and we will change that in the OP.

This isnā€™t explicitly stated anywhere in the OP - but I would say yes, for the sake of randomization :tm:, players killed by visiting a Haemophilia-empowered attack will be able to be used by Shape Knowledge.

However, in the instance that you use Haemophilia and Gather Darknessā€™ DI bypass, it would be extremely overpowered to bypass DI on every visitor to the original target - using a bit of host discretion, we have decided that Gather Darknessā€™ DI bypass will not apply to visitors in this instance.

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Alter Time and Shape Knowledge have been added/fixed in the OP. Thank you for pointing these out

thank you for these, im going to push the envelope a bit more with the others

If you end up with Protection do you learn who the Unseen members are, or guess? This also applies to Pseudocide. This would be rather unfortunate absurd to end up in the hands of a fool who could make some sorta deal with bd to just not lynch and heā€™ll out the scum.

Lets take the Chronoā€™s abils here
Passives: 0
Day: 1(PD)
Night: 1(Alter time)
Timesnatcher
Passives: 1(Rewind)
Day: 0
Night: 2(Time Snatch, Dark dimension)

How do abilities cross over there? This is a specific case that isnā€™t in the exceptions list, but may belong there.

Makes sense, thanks for the clarification

So there would be no reason to use a soul for that purpose when Haemophilia is in use. Makes sense, considering that being able to kill multiple di players in 1 night is a lot.

Iā€™m excited to wake up, see my classcard and be dissapointed.
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At least there will be at least one cat in it. And also a kat.

There are a couple abilities that only Unseen are able to get from gambling, and these two are both in that list.

Although that list only existed due to Mastermind having Gamble prior to FoL changing Mastermind to allow it to inherit the day and night ability of a class of its choice. they copied us :wink:

Although in this theoretical case, the Fools wincondition would make outting scum practically gamethrowing anyway :eyes:

As stated in the OP (around where Altar Time is discussed):

In this case, the Timesnatcher would get Time Snatch and not Dark Dimension, as Altar Time would be in the Chronomancers first (and only) slot.

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