SFoL 61.5 - Fortress of the Dark Deity (4/16) - Complete - The Unseen, Guardian, and Senex win!

[Vulgard]

I honestly don’t expect to do well this game, but maybe I’ll get something done. Like prevent TvT wagons?

@an_gorta_pratai

I was on Crich and then Appel and now I really don’t know

I think this is a distinctly villagery response. What were the initial reasons for the push on gorta?

[an_gorta_pratai]

TL;DR I was on CRich’s top 3 scum list and not pushed and something something pushing exposed scum for towncred

[an_gorta_pratai]

Arete thought that that was proof of me and CRich being scum buddies

[Vulgard]

@an_gorta_pratai

pushing exposed scum for towncred

Aren’t, like, half the players in the game doing that? Who can be accredited with catching CRich initially? I think Arete gets the most credit for that, from what I could read.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

I think Arete gets the most credit for that, from what I could read.

@an_gorta_pratai

Arete thought that that was proof of me and CRich being scum buddies

Unless you’re misphrasing what they said, I think Arete’s town but possibly wrong about you. Not sure yet, though. I need to actually read your ISO.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I haven’t been the most active, but it’s kind of like my tone from Insurgency I can tell (minus the wishy-washy reads). There were a few dumber gorta moments, but eh, it was 7 AM, so my mind wasn’t all there. I do think that Arete is possibly wrong about me because she also did this in Insurgency.

[Napoleon]

Hey Vulgard, do you know about the voting mecahnic?

[Napoleon]

Also I’ll play along:

/vote katze

[Napoleon]

You kinda just voted katze just like “whoosh”! so I don’t think you know about the voting mechanic ?

[Vulgard]

Yes, and I don’t care about who I tag. I already tagged myself for the memes, and if it doesn’t work, I tagged Jane who I don’t want to lynch.

I think we’re making too big of a deal out of it. I’m town, I don’t think I’m PoE anymore, and so I’m not obligated to be careful with my vote because of the tag mechanic.

[Napoleon]

uhh also katze also has a d2 I think you should read though

[Vulgard]

@katze

i was gonna look at arete first but i’d like to reread crichs early posts to fully understand the context as to why arete was scumreading them

@katze

“at this stage of the game” is very peculiar wording - if he’s town then he would know any redchecks are false unless it’s something like a maid damsel incompatible check (which has plausible truth)

but the default response to “redcheck” would be to assume it’s probably a cop check, right?

@katze

these posts read as a lot more stoic than his posting in ToSFM2, they’re just observations as opposed to his own thoughts

@katze

i dont think this post is AI i just find their use of pepe hands hilarious

@katze

this frustration reads as genuine, but i don’t know if i find that massively AI (i know arete was partially clearing him for it) for the sole reason that crichard has been actively seeking a wolf game for quite a while now, and if he were scumread early in his first wolf game i could see him being unhappy about it

but being scumread as town is also not the best feeling

he’s really drawing this home though, and my gut doesn’t like that but my brain doesn’t think its AI

but again, this kind of lines up with ToSFM2 where he was pretty unhappy with marshal for shading him

@katze

and he goes on for a bit in that game about it

so actually i think “meta” is an okay look here but the whole “crichard has never had a wolf game” means using meta to read him is probably even worse than usual (meta bad, btw, someone please quote this as the only thing you read from this entire wallpost because its the only part that matters and itd prove someones actually reading this)

but it has precedent which is a better look

@katze

this thought process seems about in line with his past games, from what i can remember

@katze

he still isn’t the best at detecting jokes

thast prob not AI

although making a read like this is an okay look, he wasn’t the first person to show concern at cloneds’ posting so i won’t give it much thought

i see a lot of posts asking people about their reads on people

did he do that in sfol61.0

eh, kind of? he did it less but there’s some posts in the same ballpark

@katze

(this post is in context to being asked on their read on arete)

@katze

these posts are really hostile and again, the frustration reads as genuine

i still don’t think frustration is AI, and i don’t think the hostility is either

but i wanted to comment on the posts arete quoted; i don’t really think they blatantly TMI arete as town (although if crich flips groupscum then i think these posts kind of spew arete as non-groupscum; but that’s partially because i don’t think arete would write this to a partner) but i kind of agree that they are written from a weird perspective, they’re written in a way that it doesn’t really sound like they scumread arete much

but they also said it was a light SR, so i don’t think this completely kills the slot yet

@katze

tbh i think this might be a bit too brazen for wolf!Crich? ofc i have no sample size, but like, it’s D1 and nappy was never really below a consensus nullread

fuck i am way too tired to write long ISOs like this
actually imma just stop this one here, i think ive reached a conclusion anyway and i want to eat before i sleep

i think crich is a light townlean for reasons i don’t love

oh boy
give me time and i’ll try to analyze this

[Vulgard]

Bold statement: I think I can figure out katze’s alignment based on the read on CRich alone.
watch me be completely wrong

[Napoleon]

@Vulgard

Bold statement: I think I can figure out katze’s alignment based on the read on CRich alone.

towngod vulgod towngod vulgod towngod vulgod

[Vulgard]

i wish

[Napoleon]

/unvote

[Vulgard]

you change your mind quickly

[Napoleon]

I forgot about katze’s day 2

[Napoleon]

I kinda liked it better

[Napoleon]

But continue reading katze k ty