SFoL 61.5 - Fortress of the Dark Deity (4/16) - Complete - The Unseen, Guardian, and Senex win!

[TheBlueElixir]

F

well i gotta go again

[katze]

i think the biggest difference between me in sfol61/this game and in other town games is im more focused on finding town and building a PoE from people i cant find as town than i am finding scum

because i don’t think im that great at finding scum and i think im a bit better at finding town

@anon6348071

I would say “actually trying to solve the game” and “enacting good RTs” is the change.

the former is something i try to do as town already!!! im just being more vocal about my thought process and… thats literally it, isn’t it?

and good RTs are hard to do when literally everything i say is never taken seriously anymore, but a majority of my RTs are done for a reason (they just don’t get results that often)

[Italy]

not cool

[anon6348071]

@katze

the former is something i try to do as town already!!!

Is this where I quote all the games where you incessantly memed and claimed scum as town.

@katze

im just being more vocal about my thought process and… thats literally it, isn’t it?

Keep doing that – it’s legitimately a whole lot easier (and a lot more pleasant) to interact with you when you explain what you are doing. When I said that I don’t want to play with you in that chat, I was half-genuine – I expected you to meme and not do much in the thread, and I probably wouldn’t have patience to handle it.

@katze

and good RTs are hard to do when literally everything i say is never taken seriously anymore

You kinda brought this on yourself though.

[anon6348071]

Hey Italy.
How about you do things.

[katze]

@anon6348071

Is this where I quote all the games where you incessantly memed and claimed scum as town.

i think ive claimed scum this game too? idk, ive lost track of what i have and haven’t done this game, but im like 99% sure i claimed scum in sfol61.0 because i wanted to prove that it’s not a scumtell for me to claim scum to the 0 people who thought it was

@anon6348071

When I said that I don’t want to play with you in that chat, I was half-genuine

i mean i didn’t think you were joking because it was mildly harsh and didn’t come off as a joke, especially in the context it was said in

@anon6348071

You kinda brought this on yourself though.

not saying i didn’t

just sad

[Italy]

being town leader italy is hard

[Vulgard]

@anon6348071

We’ve discussed this with Napoleon in Allies. First things first, I still stand by my point that him claiming D1 Merc as scum is suicidal since he should know that these forums are “neuts out”, next, his posts are a whole lot better in this game. I think if he randed scum twice his WiM would be nonexistent – but I’m not ready to clear him off of that.

I think you’re incorrect in a certain aspect here. Derps enjoys playing wolf far more than he enjoys playing town. If there’s a WiM argument to be made, him having higher WiM is typically a bad sign.

He does intentionally fake low WiM as a wolf, and he has done it to good effect in a game I played with him off-site, but my point still stands.

@anon6348071

@Vulgard

and Seth (who also claimed neut, I think?)

Seth claimed the Senex who can basically mech confirm himself. The only reason he’s here is because there’s still a slight chance that this is staged and he’s somehow scum, but I don’t believe in it much. Still, until he reveals (or heals someone), he can stay there.

I honestly think he should’ve used the Senex day ability by now and the fact he hasn’t is scummy. If you’re going to claim Senex anyway, why don’t you just reveal? What are you waiting for?

If he were afraid of day occupations or something, he could just reveal without claiming or softing whatsoever. That way, there would be little to no risk of it being interrupted somehow.

@katze

literally everything i say is never taken seriously anymore

I mean, you kinda did it to yourself with the lolreactiontests pre-rand.

@anon6348071

Is this where I quote all the games where you incessantly memed and claimed scum as town.

@anon6348071

You kinda brought this on yourself though.

lolmindmelds

@katze

i think ive claimed scum this game too? idk, ive lost track of what i have and haven’t done this game

Bruh.

[anon6348071]

@katze

i think ive claimed scum this game too?

The thing about claiming scum is that there’s difference between claiming scum when your whole ISO is memes, and when your ISO is actually full of your thoughts/explanations.
Does that make sense? The fact that you elaborate on things makes it easier to interact with you and cuts down needless paranoia about you actually being scum, because like you said, you claiming it is pretty much NAI.
I guess I worded that wrong but it’s not about claiming scum in general, it’s about your other content.

@katze

i mean i didn’t think you were joking because it was mildly harsh and didn’t come off as a joke, especially in the context it was said in

I’m sorry if it came out harsh. I’ve actually enjoyed playing with you so far.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

I honestly think he should’ve used the Senex day ability by now and the fact he hasn’t is scummy. If you’re going to claim Senex anyway, why don’t you just reveal? What are you waiting for?

What’s the context of his claim, or at least, what’s the thread’s impression of the context? I have to check this myself.

[katze]

@Vulgard

Bruh.

is that a bad sign when im actually not sure

i dont wanna iso myself

@anon6348071

The fact that you elaborate on things makes it easier to interact with you and cuts down needless paranoia about you actually being scum , because like you said, you claiming it is pretty much NAI.

nod nod

@anon6348071

I’ve actually enjoyed playing with you so far.

then do it more often :^)

@Vulgard

What’s the context of his claim, or at least, what’s the thread’s impression of the context? I have to check this myself.

i think he claimed self resolving on like d1/d2 for no real reason

[katze]

@ChopChop

Also It’s beneficial for me to claim/confirm myself today.

@ChopChop

Oh no, I Claim.
Actually my role claims for me.

his 4th and 11th posts if i know how to count correctly

[Vulgard]

Honestly, Seth claiming self-resolving (kinda) and then not doing it with objectively impossible to fake mechanics is something that makes me want to kill him right now.

He’s had one whole day phase and a sizable portion of the second day phase to do it. He hasn’t, and I can’t find a good reason for it other than the fact he’s just lying. He claimed Senex anyway, so why not use the ability to back your words up?

/vote ModeShifter

[anon6348071]

@Vulgard

Derps enjoys playing wolf far more than he enjoys playing town. If there’s a WiM argument to be made, him having higher WiM is typically a bad sign.

Alright, I can accept this. But let’s look at it from this perspective:
If CRichard flips groupscum, I think it basically removes the possibility of SDA being his partner, since CRichard is probably on the same levels as Italy? He never had a scum game before either.
If CRichard flips NK, then I suppose he is one of those slots that would have to be reevaluated ASAP.

@Vulgard

He does intentionally fake low WiM as a wolf, and he has done it to good effect in a game I played with him off-site, but my point still stands.

The whole Mercenary claim thing still doesn’t sit well with me though. Why claim a neutral as scum and bring attention to yourself so early on?

@Vulgard

If he were afraid of day occupations or something, he could just reveal without claiming or softing whatsoever.

The issue is that he softed his class I want to say 40 minutes into D1. After bringing up the whole day occupy argument (which I didn’t really consider before), I agree that he should probably WIFOM the reveal, but we’ve discussed this already. Even if he gets day occupied, he’s never the first lynch tomorrow.
Also, doesn’t reveal remove DI? Meaning revealing before D3 would be worse than revealing now, since in case Seth is real he might get shanked tonight. And Senex is quite useful.

[Vulgard]

Also, do we know if Senex flips with its granted wincon?

[Italy]

i claim self resolving
/dayvig italy

[Vulgard]

What do you want to talk about?

[anon6348071]

@Vulgard

Also, do we know if Senex flips with its granted wincon?

I think it should? I’m going to ask in my class card.

[Italy]

i think we’d be informed of cult senex having its passive trigger

[katze]

@ChopChop

Btw my role in no means confirms me as Town.
It confirms me as potential Town.
To prove I’m Town you’ll have to figure it out verbally.

@ChopChop

I kinda like my role.
It’s like a Survivor but more useful.

@ChopChop

And yes @Arete
I’m the Senex.

@ChopChop

I’ll use my Reveal now though.

@ChopChop

Actually.
I’ve decided to reveal tomorrow.
As I still have my night Immunity tonight.
Plus, I want to test some stuff and show you I’m legit before I actually reveal.
But I promise that tomorrow I’ll reveal.

shrug

could try to bully the reveal out of him today, i think his ISO is decently towny for him but its less towny than i remember