SFoL 61.5 - Fortress of the Dark Deity (4/16) - Complete - The Unseen, Guardian, and Senex win!

[Jane]

Yeah, I do think that.

[SirDerpsAlot]

Any specific reasons or just gut

[SirDerpsAlot]

Cuz I think the same thing tbh

[Appelsiini]

Why?

[Jane]

@CRichard564

I’m not telling you what neutral I am. All I’ll say for now is that I win with scum.

@CRichard564

Katze has softed Vessel too Derps. I wonder if you’re for real as well.

@CRichard564

Yes I did.

(in response to asking if they visited katze)

@CRichard564

It’s the same with SS in ToL. Sellsword getting executed wastes a day for BD.

@CRichard564

I claimed to occupy you yes.

/shrug

[Jane]

Anyway.

I have some info that I believe is EV+ to out at some point today.

@Scum bleed me OwO.

[SirDerpsAlot]

I would but I can’t bleed sorry

[Jane]

But you’re not scum.

[SirDerpsAlot]

Sure

[SirDerpsAlot]

Whatever ya say

[Jane]

/Vote Appelsiini
/Vote CRichard564

I’d prefer Vessel dealing with Richard but it’s doesn’t seem like that’s happening. : /

[CRichard564]

I seem to remember this has plurality. So if someone is tied with me in votes, then it’s a 50/50 chance i die today.

[Jane]

That’s true. I doubt the lynch will be randomized because of a tie with you though.

[Jane]

@Arete (If you’re still awake)

What do you think of Appels?

[Jane]

@Gaja1234 Are you planning on posting today?

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Appelsiini

Eh. I don’t know what to say to an obvious RT, but at this point I can confidently say my reads actually suck. I put Alice as scumlean in my journal. Ugh.

I had Alice a scum lean as well and would have pressed her today if she lived.

@katze

would i lie about that?

I believe you would

@Arete

I get that she’s Alice but … I don’t even remember any of her pushes? I should probably backread but

Exactly, which is why I think it wouldn’t make sense to kill Alice

@katze

alice having such a lackluster showing on D1 and dying N1 makes me think its more likely to be a SPK but ignoring her reads definitely did town no favors in insurgency

We lost that game because we didn’t sheep her reads and followed wolves. We shouldn’t discard Alice’s reads, despite them being kind of meh compared to her usual reads.

@Appelsiini

So you think I would first put her in my scumleans and then kill her immediately after, even when she wasn’t active enough to at least pressure me? Her read was based on weird things.
As for Cloned, don’t know what to say. Could they feel threatened enough by that? Was there anyone who agreed/disagreed?

I don’t know if you would or wouldn’t tbqh

@Napoleon

She’s the Neutral Killer.

Did you ever explain your case? I would support it and can see where you are coming from, but I want to hear your case.

@anon6348071

She never really got SL’d for it – in fact, the only person to suspect her was Arete.
Do you think that their whole interaction can’t be W/W?

I know I didn’t SL her for it

@Arete

raises hand

I specifically think it’s unlikely to be W/W based on CRich’s response to Appel’s defense, like, I want to believe that he’s a competent enough wolf not to respond to his wolf partner trying to bail him out by writing up a post about how this means his partner is obviously town

that does seem obvious, but at this point I really wouldn’t be surprised if he would, especially after using those “RTs” as a way of clearing his name

@Napoleon

Actually her activity isn’t why she’s NK.

Activity should never indicate alignment

@Arete

I TR Seth because he claimed self-resolving

speaking of, has anything come of this yet?

@anon6348071

The only thing I’m going to say about Napoleon is that he’s literally BD King – there’s no universe where he randed scum.

I hope you mean cult

@CRichard564

Alright I thought I should mention that yes I did have a scummy tone D1 because that was a RT.

hmmmmmmmmm this is a very bad post and do I even need to say why?

@clonedcheese

this seems like scum noticing that they had a scummy tone and covering it up for towncred

I did do something similar in a game, but I didn’t say it was some reaction test and was actually town

@CRichard564

If anyone has gone through my games. I’ve talked about how I have trouble reading some players slots.
In particular Derps and Italy who are in this game.
This is part of changing my meta so I can flush out AI reactions to my scummy tone D1.

This is fake as hell and this is also why I partially think Appel/CRich could be a possible team. We assumed CRich wouldn’t defend his scum partner, but I think this proves it’s possible. I would like some takes on this

@CRichard564

That Arete is a town read as he was the 1st to pounce on my tone. I don’t think Arete would care so much about my scummy tone if they were scum themselves.

Arete was fairly townread already

@CRichard564

Napoleon as far as I’m concerned has to be GK. I didn’t expect him to threaten to GT me D1 though. I think Napoleon would have too much to lose doing this as EK.

@CRichard564

Italy taking this game seriously makes me think he is town at this point.

This is also obvious

@Arete

That ‘this was actually all a reactiontest’ is awfully convenient

Yeah, a bit too convenient

@CRichard564

I’m able to clear myself of being Alice’s killer by outing my visit N1.

If I recall this was also a “RT”

@clonedcheese

in which case katze should be under scrutiny

I actually agree with cheese here. If he is the converter then Katze should be under intense scrutiny

@anon6348071

Gorta - While I slightly liked his initial tone, I absolutely want more from his slot.

You will see more from me

@Arete

CRich/Gorta feels like the most plausible world where I’m at now assuming CRich groupscum (I’m at 1152 but the combination of the readlist + putting him in his top three suspects but never pushing him is part of what’s making me think that)

Hell no, do you think I would have let CRich get away with those awful “RT” if I was scum buddies with him?

@Arete

I am not expecting Gorta (regardless of his alignment) to have a particularly useful response to ‘why was CRich interacting with you in this way’

I can’t explain CRich’s actions, but I was barely on yesterday and didn’t really get much of a chance to interect with CRich

@TheBlueElixir

/vote gorta

a few unvotes so no quickhammer soon

Deja vu

@Arete

I am not intrinsically opposed to that but I’m leaning towards it being better to lynch him today rather than jailexeing him

I think we should lynch CRich and I think appel might be a decent jail target

@ChopChop

Should Mode Shifter Reveal?
Yes (0)
No (0)

NO YOU SHOULD NOT

@Napoleon

gorta im going to grand ritual you

I don’t agree with this and I think it’s a mistake, but if you are then there isn’t much I can do. I think you should give me more time to talk though

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Arete

CRich/Gorta feels like the most plausible world where I’m at now assuming CRich groupscum (I’m at 1152 but the combination of the readlist + putting him in his top three suspects but never pushing him is part of what’s making me think that)

I was going to ask you who you thought was working with CRich if he is group scum, but I can assure you that if I was scum buddies with CRich I would have made sure he didn’t do those awful “RTs”. I know I am not as useful as I was last game, but I just caught up and have to sleep soon

[an_gorta_pratai]

Is it bad that I kind of think that cheese isn’t scum (or is less likely to be scum) from their posts today? I won’t town read them, but they are higher up on my list now. Scum cheese usually plays worse. I welcome any input on the thought though

[an_gorta_pratai]

I want to see more from Intensify and Gaja. I kind of feel ok about Nappy. Arete is a slot that I am paranoid about because I know they are decent at playing either side. Has TBE had a wolf game?

[CRichard564]

As far as I know TBE has never had a wolf game.