SFoL 64 - Anonymous FoL - Day 6 - The Possessor, Inquisitor, and Fool are victorious!

[Ivo_Wake]

Who said andy visited Lucy lets clear this up

[Alan_Atlee]

I am going to do things how I usually do it which is a tier reads list.

10: Ivo
9:
8: Alice, Nicolas, Isabel
7: Jane, Emma
6: Edmond, Peter, Geoffrey
5: Mary, Thomas, Gilbert
4: Sarah
3: Helen, Andy
2:
1:

[Alice_Alard]

@Mary_Savill

Do you want me to respond to completely random things that aren’t even close to being about me? I don’t have anything to add to some things and you say this like I should’ve.

I mean a lot has happened while you were away. I’d think some things would ping you or stand out? Even if its a simple “I agree/disagree with this take,” it’s important to understand your thought-process and why you read people the way you do.
The game isn’t just about responding to things that mention you.

Where am I in this list?
Also please explain Peter, Alan (I’ll go back and read your posts from earlier rn and see if you explained this one), Nicolas, Edmond

@Nicolas_Adams

This seems like a reasonable plan I think:

Nonono
We leave room for wifom. Prince jails outside of the two main wagons, and everything else is up to the individual. I do think that killers and offensives should consider targeting the counterwagon though.
Having a strict plan allows for evils to work around it much easier, and we don’t want that.

[Alan_Atlee]

@Alice_Alard

Here, I’ll put it in simple words:

Alan you are dying tonight or tomorrow.
Give us a legacy to work with if you are Good King.

I plan on this changing as despite how bad I feel I will not go down without some of a fight at least.
It is the minimum I can do

[Nicolas_Adams]

I did

i told mary that not 10 min ago

[Alice_Alard]

@Mary_Savill

T

Ivo
Thomas
Peter
Alan

Nicolas
Isabel
Emma
Sarah
Jane

Gilbert
Geoffrey
Nicolas
Edmond
Helen

Andy

W

Wait what the hell lol

[Mary_Savill]

oh, I forgot to remove the scumlean Nicolas.

[Nicolas_Adams]

:^)

[Mary_Savill]

I asked about who claimed the visit and moved Nicolas to a Top Townlean and forgot to remove the Scumlean one.

[Alan_Atlee]

Actually, I forgot to move Geoffrey up after reevaluation.
Would move to a 7 or 8

[Alice_Alard]

@Alice_Alard

Where am I in this list?
Also please explain Peter, Alan (I’ll go back and read your posts from earlier rn and see if you explained this one), Nicolas, Edmond

Can you answer these please?
Also replace Nicolas with Emma. I just noticed her positioning.

[Alice_Alard]

@Alan_Atlee

I am going to do things how I usually do it which is a tier reads list.

10: Ivo
9:
8: Alice, Nicolas, Isabel
7: Jane, Emma
6: Edmond, Peter, Geoffrey
5: Mary, Thomas, Gilbert
4: Sarah
3: Helen, Andy
2:
1:

Explain Jane please. Curious what your take is.
Also why did you Grand Trial Mary if they are a 5 for you? Why not Sarah, Helen, or Andy?

[Mary_Savill]

Uh sure, I might be able to.

I forgot to add you, but you’re still a scumlean for me. Closest to Townlean however (Or Null if you want to put that)

Peter gave off Townie vibes and I haven’t exactly found myself disagreeing with him much.
Alan as stated earlier makes no sense to be doing this as Evil King (Explained this one, btw)
Emma has been a pretty big meh, but I noticed one or two times I got at least a townie ping from them (I’ll try quote them soon)
Edmond hasn’t exactly done anything notable for me. Which I find extremely strange considering their 241 post ISO. He may be active but from noticeability he hasn’t really done…well anything. All he’s done is ask questions without contributing much as himself.

[Alan_Atlee]

Reaction to the grand trial is why Mary is a 5.
Would have been a 3 or 4 otherwise.

[Alan_Atlee]

As for Jane, I think that their reactions to my uncertainty on their slot was good. I still would have liked more of an explanation on some bits but that is my fault as I should have been the one to concentrate on that.

Their reads in retrospect seem fine to me. The only bit of concern is that they did vote Ivo, but, they are one of many who had done so, therefore I will not hold it back against the slot.

[Alice_Alard]

@Mary_Savill

Alan as stated earlier makes no sense to be doing this as Evil King (Explained this one, btw)

@Mary_Savill

Alan, there is literally no excuse why a town king makes such a mistake to grand trial a player D2, think somehow that they are in the right, when others have townread the player in question only to change their idea, vote and consequently Grand Trial to a Vanity Wagon and then acts like barely anything is wrong.

@Mary_Savill

I want you dead. I don’t care how. I didn’t discuss the matter earlier when the topic came up because I saw a way how you could be Town. Instead you ignored what I said about Andy and then started pushing on me. I feel like you two are scumbuddied in a way, even if you’re King.

@Mary_Savill

What you’re ignoring is how bad of a play Grand Trial’ing would be D2, thus I physically cannot see a way how you could see that Grand Trial’ing a Vanity Wagon as you said yourself is a good idea. You’re a joke.

@Mary_Savill

too want him poisoned, I didn’t originally but he’s used up his Grand Trial and more than likely Swear Fealty if he’s good. He has no use to Town anymore, we can elect someone we can trust instead in my opinion. Waste of Space at this point. Might as well poison him as it’s not like it kills off our Butler.

@Mary_Savill

I want them dead because:

• They’re pushing on a player for the same reasons they’re pushing on said player. Pushing on me because I started a wagon on Alan, the claimed CW who visited a dead guy, and he said it was a Vanity Wagon, so he started a Vanity Grand Trial.
• They’re useless now. All abilities they should’ve used by now are used up and any King we elect will have the abilities they currently have. We gain if they flip Evil King, all we lose is a BD being elected into King and a Butler’s abilities.

@Mary_Savill

I’ve cleared my head to say that Alan is a stupid Town, since I don’t see a scum King doing this. Makes no sense for them.

Gotcha. I was misunderstanding what you were saying when this all went down. You want him poisoned because he is ultimately an untrustworthy and now mechanically-useless BD King, from your perspective?

@Mary_Savill

you’re still a scumlean for me

Is this still OMGUS, or do you have other reasoning?

@Alan_Atlee

The only bit of concern is that they did vote Ivo, but, they are one of many who had done so, therefore I will not hold it back against the slot.

It’s not the really vote itself that matters, it’s why they voted. Do you think Jane was being honest with their reason for voting Ivo?

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An aside: Why is the thread so incredibly dead currently? We are nearing the end of the day and there is still no mod confirmation of a Grand Trial (even though I do think it happened), why is nobody here or doing… anything?
I’m honestly unsure how to read into this but something definitely feels off to me.

[Mary_Savill]

@Alice_Alard

Gotcha. I was misunderstanding what you were saying when this all went down. You want him poisoned because he is ultimately an untrustworthy and now mechanically-useless BD King, from your perspective?

Basically, yes.

@Alice_Alard

Is this still OMGUS, or do you have other reasoning?

Not really? I don’t remember my original reason for scumleaning you in the first place, all I remember is that you’ve had a few townie points.

[Alan_Atlee]

@Alice_Alard

It’s not the really vote itself that matters, it’s why they voted. Do you think Jane was being honest with their reason for voting Ivo?

The reasoning was quite brief but I did not see any negative intent behind it nor did it read as fake

[Jane_Drayton]

@Alan_Atlee

The reasoning was quite brief but I did not see any negative intent behind it nor did it read as fake

How so? When I jumped onto Ivo’s wagon, every one read me as a “scum who tries to jump onto wagon in order to get a ML”, why did you read me as “genuine” then?

I just want a explanation here.

[Ivo_Wake]

Honestly we should lynch andy here then