*emma
The reasoning was in my logs but I removed it and it isnāt letting me copy and paste so Iāve rewrote it.
"Since Iām dead for whatever reason, my reasoning for checking Andy using Flirt was because Ivo more than likely didnāt jail them. And if theyāre framed, they will appear as S/I if theyāre Assassin/NK, assuming Scorned or something, if they arenāt framed, then I get their real things. However if theyāre framed and I use Will Oā Wisp, I will get an Unseen result which honestly puts me into a position of not being well of mind and more than likely tunneling them which is a mistake.
Also, due to them claiming their entire classcard, if I do not receive an S/S result, then theyāre framed or lockscum. Pretty simple to me."
As you can tell, I didnāt assume a Cult game for whatever reason.
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Did Emma claim RB?
Nope I donāt think they softed it either
Thatās anā¦issue to say the least.
Who are our current Royal Blood claims?
I could be wrong about their soft but its pretty high iq to understand it.
But no thry havenāt directly claimed royal I have doubts with their response
I think we vote Jane for king here tbh I just donāt think itās worth the risk
I am still willing to step for King, I just donāt believe itās the best course of action. However I do trust myself the most so it is up to you.
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Lets talk about it because its important I donāt have faith in everyone to be active either
I think Iām ass at spew.
Your analysis made me incredibly unconfident in mine tbh
Going to paraphrase what I said in allies:
Randomly pinging a player without progression on them, or ever mentioning them beforehand, is potential w/w behavior (and in my experience, it is more likely to come from a wolf). This isnāt extremely incriminating, but I want to note it, as I also think Peter is scummy individually.
Emma and I have different opinions on the Jane portion. However, before diving into it, I do want to start with a disclaimer that I am slightly biased on this, as I also believe Peter/Jane have w/w equity. This is not completely objective and should not be used as major reasoning to scumread Jane, it just gives me pause.
Helen ends with a TL on Jane without much reasoning other than āthis is a good postā a few times. Along with this, they have a conditional statement in the conclusion, that being:
āneed more activity from them so i canā¦ read them better.ā
My gut tells me that Helenās goal was to leave a conditional and also not conclude with a very strong read so that they can have the necessary progression to vote Jane later on. (w/v)
One thing raises my eyebrow though, and I admit it doesnāt mean much, as we didnāt get to see how wagons shifted at the end of the day when things actually matter, is:
If Helen made sure to leave room for progression on Jane in order to hop on the wagon for a ML, why didnāt they vote Jane at any point during the day? They were a top wagon with a Jane counterwagon and they stayed as a nonvoter.
This isnāt a strong argument because there was no major need for a vote before EoD.
I just think it has as much potential to be w/w as it does w/v.
Overall, Helen spew is mostly useless, but it has given me a two people who I want to keep a closer eye on.
@Emma_Maison
Pinging you bc I assume youāre interested in my thoughts, and Iām interested in yours.
after that GT, I am inclined to agree.
well rip me
/vote gilbert
Thereās a King Election.
i would like to have this discussion actually. this could be a Paradox situation here, where the most townread person is converted N1. iāve loved emmaās WiM and the thought that goes into all of their reads, but itās not impossible for a good wolf to fake.
iād like to pose a question for all of you to see some thought processes here: if you were CL, who would you convert N1 and why?
i would frankly convert emma here like i said earlier, in some games getting towncored is as simple as showing this kind of dedication to your reads and posts in general, which i think could? be the case here. again i reference FoL30, Paradox would have likely gotten off unscathed were they not tracked N1 by an observer due to this.
right
yea the convert is probably in alice/emma
Do nobles bounties stay if they become king?
why wouldnt tveh
they
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Idk just seems like one of those things