SFoL 66: Old Ruins FoL 2 - The Blue Dragon and The Mercenary are Victorious! (11/16)

see, i can’t even form a proper opinion because i have read pretty much half of the thread
either i suffer and spend my time going through the thread and the 4k posts or i sheep you

feel free to replace out then, didn’t seem like you really wanted to join to begin with so i don’t blame you on not being motivated

I could see GGhana possibly being a neut and you’re right that he could’ve been a good conversion target

I’m not focused on him today anyway and I kind of doubt he’s the NK

I also just went and checked the earlier vote counts because I had a theory

Do we know for sure dota actually was the moon spirit? I know this sounds stupid but he could’ve gotten disguised by a Scorned and been their execution target, that’s why I’m trying to bait them out. I don’t want the Scorned dead in that case as they’re not a priority, but if we can get them to claim then it helps us to solve the claim.

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i would also have 0 motivation if i were you cheese theres a shit ton of mechanics the only reason im even doing anything is because im clear

Helps us to solve around claims, I meant

Yeah this game is very intimidating for anyone who hasn’t played FoL before, and honestly it’s even intimidating for those of us who have. One of my friends was considering joining but he’s never played FM at all before so I advised him against it xD

walk me through what scorned does? he targets someone at night and if they get exed they will flip what he wants them to?

if that’s the case i don’t think dota is a very likely target for that. me and cheese said he was sus d1 but no one could predict he would die this hard, and even with him dying down he was barely lynched last moments

yeah… i think i’ll just stop bothering at this point and get out
i’ve been delaying stuff for too long and still don’t end up doing it

hail king lol o/
will support you in spirit… or something like that

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o/

Yep and it goes toward the scorned wincon

Yes but scorned can just push their target and make other people want to push them, too, so it’s not out of the range of possibilities. If scorned disguises a blue dragon or neut as moon spirit, it could hide a cult game, it could hide the actual unseen killer, and ultimately confuse the hell out of BD while giving info to evils

And scorned is a neutral role, not neutral evil, since they can also side with BD and only frame players on track to be executed without disguising their flips, too. That’s what Wazza did in EFoL 4 and 3/4 and it worked out well for BD.

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it is but i dont think its very worthwhile to consider, yet

++ if dota was townie i can give you about 95% chance that he would be top 3 posters and still alive

Dota could have been a neutral, though, including the sorcerer and it would still explain a lack of kills

And it would mean our entire conversion analysis or assuming it’s an unseen game would be wrong

the only way its a correct theory is if dota was a different evil already, for example he was the head and was turned into the spirit

That too, yeah
And that’s not an uncommon occurrence

what does it mean for us though? lets say we killed a neutral back there, what kind of shit are we into?

It means we could have either an unseen or a cult game, and that we can’t use wagonomics to determine that dota wasn’t bussed, so all association reads on dota are completely void

It would also mean there’s a decent chance the hardest pushers on dota is scorned… Which I guess is GGhana and you? But you’re definitely not scorned because of the king election. And GGhana claimed a self-resolving role, though, and noble is definitely not an easy fake claim for a scorned.