SFoL 67: Clash of Cults 2 -- Balance/Discussion Thread

I mean you’re not wrong

But it exists for now

if noble has bounty apostle should have bounty

as an ability?

not a huge fan but I have 0 better ideas

also have you noticed that Mithras Apostle can’t fake mystic

Mithras Cult proven to be inferior once more :^)

…mystic apostle’s best thing is that it allows CL to go get a better convert then itself

I mean
That’s strong in of itself

The Mystic has been eliminated and the Corax Cult can’t snatch them

You get another convert

i wanted to discuss this, actually

because i think new Apostle can fake all 3 Social classes equally as good/better than the Mithras variants can with Cult Alts

although i guess the main outlier here is Mystic – where Mithras Mystic gets an additional convert a day sooner in exchange for their existence being outted immediately if they were an outted Mystic

/shrug

Given the game will likely be far longer than a typical FoL game, current Corax Apostle cannot keep up a Mystic claim for long

And of course starter Corax Apostle is as useful as a chocolate teapot

2 nights is still a long time

but this is kind of getting into the “i don’t entirely agree with the proposed FoL apostle changes” territory

Delicious but not practical, indeed.

I guess it would make some sense to replace it with current Apostle purely because starter one rolling would be… unfavorable.
But at the same time 2 nights are still quite some time, not to mention that you don’t have to claim Mystic?

You can just use it to try and gather information.
Also there’s the fact that you could potentially coast another day without outing your nonexistent links, but still.

now I dont know if I should name my game Clash of Conspirators if a different CoC is a thing

then you can change it

since your hosting

2 nights isn’t a ton of time when the Mithras Cult acts incredibly slowly and Corax Cult can easily get walled by a butler or mithras invoker

That’s what Transfer Essence is for.
Also starter Corax Apostle actually has the advantage of using Link for information, since people can’t determine if it’s an actual Mystic or not.

Random links that start on N3/N4 would be far more questionable when no one claimed linked the whole game.

why is transfer essence shared uses btw

I think it should have maybe 2 uses

But infinite CL swaps basically makes butler and drunk useless in cult games

Lock them into slots?

I.e. each single slot gets one and no more.

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anything but 1 shared use

its only useful in specific situations and making it a single use is kinda unecessary

my problem is that the Mithras one is explicitly better in almost every way

the only “sidegrade” is that the Mithras one has to select you for Blood of Mithras – whereas the Corax one does not (but bleeds you as a consequence)

the occupies are identical, radiant potion is a flat upgrade (you either find a member of the Corax cult or you find their exact class, as opposed to a flat Princess flirt)

and the tailor/frame on corax is a tailor/heal on mithras which i guess is an actually valid sidegrade

my main problem is radiant potion vs jinx being too big of an upgrade i think, the other two are sidegrades at least

i like these both but am still open to new ideas on them

Hmm
Thinking Radiant Potion could instead be an observer track