SFoL 67: Clash of Cults 2 -- Balance/Discussion Thread

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#141

I think leaving both CLs as is would be more or less fine.

Make Cabalist’s passive not work with BoM :^)
This is not a serious proposition.

#142

but anstreim, what passive :eyes:

#143

I meant “Make Cabalist’s passive a thing that doesn’t allow it to work with BoM”.
6 AM and all.

(As in, give Cabalist a passive. Word salad.)

#144

okay makes sense

#145

i think im growing to be happy with this

@Amelia @arete @anon6348071 @geyde @jane any opinions?

not really sure who else to ping

uhhh

@napoleon @marshal

but if nobody has any huge disagreements i think i might just call it done cause these were the only two things stopping this setup from being complete

im mostly asking about the cabalists, but if anyone has any huge objections to the TK alts im still all ears on that

“why did you ping me reee” is also equal to “this is all perfect”

sorry for small massping

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#146

Well

It’s just so positive and generous. Practically costs nothing at all at one mana you drop him on the board and that chill ass motherfucker gives you a spell to use later in the game. And you also get this adorable little 1/1 can ping things but usually is too harmless to be removed.

But more than the BB is just so positive. It comes on the board like “do you want to cast a spell?” and I’m like “yeah BB i do want to cast a spell let’s do this shit” and when he attacks he’s like “SPELLS ARE FUN” and I’m like “yeah they are SO FUN.” He doesn’t say some bullshit macho shit like “I will destroy you” he’s just like “nah spells are fun.” And it looks so happy. I mean this is an inanimate object literally brought to life by magic. It understands it’s life is a temporary magical gift and the dude is just fucking loving it.

#147

I don’t know why you’re asking me, I suck at balance.

@DatBird maybe?

#148

i don’t know what i expected pinging you tbh

#149

I’ve already stated that I think both of those are fine, but you wanted to address the issue of Mithras Cabalist spawning as starter and becoming a powerhouse.
What if starting Cultist cannot be Cabalist for both Cults, period? That kinda solves “easy KP topped with a ton of versatility” issue, and it’s still more or less fine all around?

I’m really happy with this though, I think it’s pretty good all around:

#150

what?

#151

anything but an actual analysis?

#152

You’re reviewing this, right? Are katze’s Cabalists balanced?

#153

im not currently no. But i can look at it

#154

i considered this but i kind of don’t want to go down this route if i don’t have to

i mean

i was half hoping you’d give me something real but i was very much expecting you to meme it

which is fine i like meme but i also know you’re capable of balance discussion

#155

Okay… uhm… opinions… uh…

Not enough abilities named after Anstreim.

#156

Could still add the passive/modifier that disables starting Mithras Cabalist surviving BoM.
Even if it was more of a joke proposition.

#157

eh

it’ll be a very good starting/n1 conv

i don’t think i need to nerf that

i think i might consider it done

but i want anerd to say something because i think they have a reasonably good opinion on balancing things

:eyes:

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#158

eh

prob sticking with the above cabalists

ayaya time to find out postgame that i truly suck at balancing things :^)

think ill put this back on the queue later today unless i have a sudden change of heart

ty for all your help nerds :heart:

@jane if you still wanna cohost ill put you down as it

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#159

I wasn’t sure if I was focused enough to actually give valid points rather than gut thoughts

#160

well if you get that focus to give valid points id be happy to hear them

i feel like after the disaster that was randomizer (which i thought was only lightly townsided conceptually, pre-rand) i’m always going to be a bit wary on my own ideas and how well balanced they are

if not i also accept memes