SFoL 67: Clash of Cults 2 -- Balance/Discussion Thread

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#101

poll time

  • (Serve Ale) Mithrasā€™ Reflection (Night) - Target a player. Redirect all players targeting them back to themselves. - 1 use
  • The same as above, but costs 2 points instead of 1
  • (Serve Ale) Moonshine (Night) - Grant a selected Cult member a 1 use occupy that they can use in addition to their normal night action tomorrow night. 2 uses
  • 2 points: (Serve Ale) Moonshine (Night) - All Cult members, including yourself, will gain a 1 use occupy that they may use in addition to their normal night action tomorrow. 1 use

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this is probably an awful way to actually do this poll

#102

(Serve Ale) Banana (Night) - Banana - Banana

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#103
if it was 1 point, these would be the two possible TK -> MithrasInvokers

The Mithras Invoker :crossed_swords:

Cult Offensive
Fanatic (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing.
Bewilder (Day) - Target player is occupied for this day. - 1 Use
Blood Daze (Day) - If target player attempts to use a day ability today, they will be forced to target themself with it. - 1 use
Strings of Mithras (Night) - Control a player into targeting another. You will only be seen visiting the controlled player. - 1 use
Blood Portal (Night) - Target 2 players. Redirect all players targeting either of your targets to the other. You will be seen visiting your first target only. Can target self. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and the Corax Cult.

The Mithras Invoker :crossed_swords:

Cult Offensive
Fanatic (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing.
Bewilder (Day) - Target player is occupied for this day. - 1 Use
Blood Daze (Day) - If target player attempts to use a day ability today, they will be forced to target themself with it. - 1 use
Strings of Mithras (Night) - Control a player into targeting another. You will only be seen visiting the controlled player. - 1 use
Mithrasā€™ Reflection (Night) - Target a player. Redirect all players targeting them back to themselves. - 1 use
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and the Corax Cult.

if it was 2 points, these would be the two possible TK -> MithrasInvokers

The Mithras Invoker :crossed_swords:

Cult Offensive
Fanatic (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing.
Bewilder (Day) - Target player is occupied for this day. - 1 Use
Blood Daze (Day) - If target player attempts to use a day ability today, they will be forced to target themself with it. - 1 use
Strings of Mithras (Night) - Control a player into targeting another. You will only be seen visiting the controlled player. - 1 use
Blood Portal (Night) - Target 2 players. Redirect all players targeting either of your targets to the other. You will be seen visiting your first target only. Can target self. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and the Corax Cult.

The Mithras Invoker :crossed_swords:

Cult Offensive
Fanatic (Passive) - Immune to occupation and target changing.
Bewilder (Day) - Target player is occupied for this day. - 1 Use
Strings of Mithras (Night) - Control a player into targeting another. You will only be seen visiting the controlled player. - 1 use
Mithrasā€™ Reflection (Night) - Target a player. Redirect all players targeting them back to themselves. - 1 use
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and the Corax Cult.

i feel like the bus driver one is always better in the 2nd case

#104

You could just write them out as options and then make poll choices 1/2/3.

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#105

How about you make it bypass redirection immunity.

#106

well it was designed to be balanced around being a 1 point ability

iirc reflectors usually bypass that

#107

Also this is illegal.
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#108

truth is, the game was rigged from the start :sunglasses:

#109

(Serve Ale) Mithrasā€™ Reflection (Night) - Target a player. Redirect all players targeting them back to themselves, bypassing redirection immunity. - 1 use

i think this would be suitable for a 2 pointer

i think thereā€™s potential paradoxes here though

#110

Yep, thatā€™s precisely what I meant.

But then thereā€™s also the fact that literally every single other alt costs 1.
And then thereā€™s this, that costs 2.

#111

Lone Cultist costs two :^)

#112

Huh, you are actually right. I missed that.

Disregard this.

#113

So does Gaze of Mithras

I guess

#114

Gun of Mithras

#115

Revolver of Corax

#116

Youā€™re pretty good

#117

Roulette of Anstreim :^)

#118

the amount of effort it took to do that BD class list was way more than i expected

took about 30 minutes of typing and copy pasting and replacing

aaa

fuck it im down for 2 point redirection bypassing reflect, now that i think about it itā€™s not weak by any means really

#119

1 shot is mega weak
give it 0 shots

#120

Mirrorfier but it is instead a reflexive strongwiller