[SFoL] SFoL 49: Triple Threat: Hand of Byzantium - Canned

[SweetyCake]

Lunch time!
Dont tag me or something!
OwO

[Marcus_Doodalee]

They depend slightly more on converts yeah losing any scum player is a reasonably big deal with 2 day conversion DC

[Marcus_Doodalee]

Lunch isn’t for 10 hours or so sorry dear

[Geyde]

@SweetyCake

The hardest choices require the strongest wills

[Marcus_Doodalee]

I’m a simple man
I see Geyde quote avengers with no gif, I don’t like the post :^)

[SweetyCake]

Only this i agree with you

[Geyde]

There’s no gifs for this that work on my phone

[Geyde]

Reading through this must be hell for Alice

[Geyde]

@Icibalus

I’d reccomend a peek on PKR/Cupcake/Sam17z, before anybody asks.

He isn’t necessarily sold either way for Blizer, but he definitely doesn’t think he’s Town enough to not be checked. Yet he doesn’t exhibit that here.

I feel like avoiding Blizer like this makes no sense. Especially not including him in the check PoE

[Geyde]

@Icibalus

I don’t get quite how Blizer can at once think that Hjasik is reactiontesting but also think that there’s something off about the REST of the push besides that.

@Blizer if you can explain this when you get back that’d be great.

@Icibalus

@Blizer

Honestly, If i know what Hjasik is doing, i like it, but interactions on both sides feel a little weird tbh

I don’t know what to feel about Blizer simultaneously implying that Hjasik is reactiontesting but at the same time posting the second clause which implies that he is at the same time fooled by the reactiontest.

@Icibalus

Math being wolfread out of the gate by somebody causing a giant argument is so predictable that even if it was a reaction test it’s not going to yield anything since the wolves know how to react to it.

These are most extent to early interactions Ici has with Blizer, and they never really develop into anything when they should.

Early distancing?
I think it’s more likely to be this since he just drops Blizer for the rest of the game

[Geyde]

@Blizer

@Icibalus

It’s almsot as if you’re possessed, Litten.

This quote i find interesting

He softs to Kitten about starting a wagon on Possessed (This was during their chess talk)

If Ici and Fk were on the same scum team, would Ici tell Kitten in their scum chat to start a wagon on him, or would he hint it in the game thread, and make it look more natural

@Blizer

@Icibalus

Hjasik’s pronouns are she/her, just putting that out there.

Sorry

I forget about that sometimes.

@Blizer

Yea, he just voted Hja, and left

Something i caught earlier, but i was reading through the interaction between Hja and Math.

@Blizer

@Icibalus

I also think it’s a bad idea to read Math early on from experience; their tone is identical as both alignments and I find that until they have a sufficient amount of information, since they resolve their fake reads near-identically to their real ones it’s impossible to tell agenda from Math being wrong.

What I’m saying is: Knock it off unless you’re somehow 100% certain in each other’s allignments already. This isn’t going to produce anything good for us.

Honestly, If i know what Hjasik is doing, i like it, but interactions on both sides feel a little weird tbh

@Blizer

@Icibalus

Math being wolfread out of the gate by somebody causing a giant argument is so predictable that even if it was a reaction test it’s not going to yield anything since the wolves know how to react to it.

Fair enough, considering these two usually do this.

Hjasik feels off a bit, as you said, but ill keep it NAI

Math reacting to 2 votes (More specifcally Hjasiks over Isaac) where you need 15 people to vote you is a little strange. Again NAI for now, but im keeping tabs on this early interaction.

@Blizer

@Icibalus

Basically, I liked how the Reaction test started out by Hjasik, but as the interaction continued, it started to lose its ground, and it started to feel like Hja was forcing it by the end of the interaction

This was extent of Ici interaction

@Blizer

True

But his continued push on Hja is probs where he should look to see if hes really town or scum.

[Geyde]

Blizer and Ici are far enough from each other in thread, but they end up tackling a lot of things in similar ways.

I don’t really like the tinfoil from Blizer on Fk/Ici since it doesn’t feel like he really buys that possibility even when writing it.

[Geyde]

@Blizer

@Possessed

You’re saying he intentionally put the association of him and Ici as scum? Is it because he thought Ici would Townlock him? I can’t see any reason to put such heavy association if that’s your scumbuddy.

Ici is a town lean for me atm, due to tone and his reactions feel natural.

FK would try to get on Ici`s good side if hes scum, because he views Ici as a threat.
So, if he could pocket him, he gets a good town player on his side.

He doesn’t analyze from opposite perspective. As well, he doesn’t really go into any real depth on why he townreads Ici. It’s odd since Fk is basically mechanically confirmed Town

[Geyde]

@Blizer

@Icibalus

It’s almsot as if you’re possessed, Litten.

This quote i find interesting

He softs to Kitten about starting a wagon on Possessed (This was during their chess talk)

If Ici and Fk were on the same scum team, would Ici tell Kitten in their scum chat to start a wagon on him, or would he hint it in the game thread, and make it look more natural

He clearly considers the idea earlier as well. This question doesn’t lead anywhere btw

[Geyde]

The Ici/Blizer interaction has enough subtext that I think it works out better than any other for reads.

Ici creates distance early with pressing Blizer on his analysis, but he never even addresses it later on. I can’t see this coming from good faith really.
Blizer talks a decent bit about Ici/Fk later on, but never really puts that much into focusing on Ici themselves. Why is that the case? I can’t see that coming from great faith considering that Ici is leading town around.

Their connection isn’t strong, but I see minor chinks in their interactions.

Decently likely to be on same team

[Icibalus]

Good morning. Full disclosure: I have an appoitnment in one and a half hours and so won’t be there for EoD.

[Geyde]

I’m selling myself on this objectively.
It works perfectly in thread as a team since it’s so subtle

Holy moly I caught two

[Icibalus]

Geyde, has it occured to you that all of this is neatly explained by me just forgetting that Blizer exists every now and then and getting distracted by other sorts of things, like an unexpected D1 gladiate from somebody I read as village onto somebody I was 100% not sold on being wolf?

[Icibalus]

I think I may have internally sorted Blizer as a villager without really thinking about it, I suppose.

[Geyde]

Generally speaking you don’t totally forget a player exists in thread when you both arrive at similar-ish conclusions in thread.