[SFoL] SFoL 53: Looming Threat - Completed

[Geyde]

Why are we beating this dead horse
Why am I still posting

aaaaaa

[Maxwell]

why was justicar unprotectable once outed . . .
scum faction was already so powerful
i mean it wouldn’t have mattered anyway since templar gave scum limitless strongmans

[Italy]

Because we can’t know for certain if it’s going to stay dead. Keep hitting it.

[Italy]

templar just…shouldn’t exist. Delet this.

[Geyde]

Rebalance this setup by not doing top down design
Top down design refers to flavor first and creating based off that

[Vulgard]

@Geyde

Influence and Affluence (Passive) - Votes for King towards you will count three times the amount of normal votes. Additionally, while you are alive if at the EoD a tie happens then the rand will always prioritize players that are not members of the Syndicate.
Grand Archbishop (Passive) - You will be able to speak to the dead at night and while alive all dead Syndicate members can still speak in Syndicate chat. While alive the Priest cannot communicate with the dead nor use Channel, and you will know if a Priest or Mystic rolled or not. Additionally, you can use both Mental Restructuring and Rapture in the same day.

what am I reading.

• the Syndicate by itself has 12 votes they can give to this class during King elections, not even counting the LW. That’s more than half the BD on day one.
• creating voting chaos is actually beneficial because scum will never be randed in the lynch.
• scum with deadchat interaction for both factions that makes a BD almost useless just by existing, gives investigative info from day 1…

@Geyde

Mental Restructuring (Day) - You can either cause a player to believe that they were jailed by the Prince while also sending them a message, or link two players and give them a neighborhood which you will have access at the end of the night. - Infinite uses
Rapture (Day) - The class and logs of the target player will be cleaned when they die. If a player dies and is cleaned, their class and logs will however show in the Syndicate chat. Upon dying any flip that was cleaned from Rapture will be revealed. - One use

more anti-Prince abilities (specifically the first one). I think Alice genuinely hates Prince.
Also the cleaning ability is a direct upgrade from the LotR cleaning ability in several ways. The LotR ability just cleaned the flip, gave us 0 information and didn’t work on scum. This one works on scum, gives you the class and logs. The only downside is that if this class died, the flip is revealed but the scumteam also has protection from night attacks they can give to this class if hiding the flip for a long time is important.
This is already absolutely crazy.

@Geyde

Scales of the Syndicate (Night) - Select two players, and for the next day one of them will have an invisible vote counting for their execution while another one will have a negative vote counting against their execution. This will not take effect- Infinite uses
Pearly Gates (Night) - In addition to your own Omega Action, you may also use a dead Syndicate member’s Omega Action alongside yours for the coming cycle if the conditions are fulfilled. - One use

As if using one Omega Action wasn’t strong enough already.
At least the night abilities are not frightening but holy hell.

@Geyde

Allegiance (Ω) - Each Blue Dragon player will have an Allegiance Counter that starts at 0. For every day where their vote ends on another member of the Blue Dragon their counter will lower by one, for every day where their vote ends on a member of the Syndicate their counter will increase by one. If their counter is in the negative then they will gain a debuff depending on the counter.

• Negative 1: Their class type grouping will be revealed to the Syndicate.
• Negative 2: Their votes for King elections will not count, but they can still become the King.
• Negative 3: They will have one silent vote on them. Stacks with Scales of the Syndicate.
• Negative 4: They will be roleblocked for the night.

Eternal Crusade Bonus: If a player hits an Allegiance Counter of Negative 5, they will die overnight.

More easy investigative info for the Syndicate. They really do know everything.

[Maxwell]

oh this horse is almost certainly going to rise again with the antimatter universe evil divine magic of the syndicate

[Vulgard]

The amount of anti-Prince abilities the Syndicate has is genuinely hilarious to me

[Geyde]

And prince is still macho
What

[Geyde]

@Vulgard

I think Alice genuinely hates Prince.

They do

[Vulgard]

I think this:

@Vulgard

the Syndicate by itself has 12 votes they can give to this class during King elections, not even counting the LW. That’s more than half the BD on day one.

Is already a bad sign because in conjunction with strongman kill and a lot of other factors, you can elect a Syndicate King with trivial ease.

@Vulgard

Mental Restructuring (Day) - You can either cause a player to believe that they were jailed by the Prince while also sending them a message, or link two players and give them a neighborhood which you will have access at the end of the night. - Infinite uses

And oh, I forgot. MORE INVESTIGATIVE INFO.

[Maxwell]

with my Seraph class and now this syndicate faction
im tempted to continue with this antimatter universe theme and design a good demon class
Like Edrogan from dc comics

[Italy]

Determination: You can’t be protected if you clai-
SYNDICATE STRONGMAN: WHAT THE FUCK IS A PROTECTIVE, DO YOU STAB IT LIKE ALL THE OTHERS?

[Maxwell]

exactly lol
Utterly comprehensive overkill

[anon97870008]

I really love Alices classes and setups, and these classes from this match are not bad at all. But they were fun, had flavor, had interesting abilities, I love it. Such wonderful classes.
I still hate this match, the rules, the power level, the semi-bastard mechanics, the egregious moderrors.
One eye laughing, one eye crying.

[Vulgard]

In LotR it felt like town had a chance until the very end and I actually liked that because it wasn’t a cakewalk for us.
Imagine if we had even one class from this setup in LotR. It would’ve been a massacre.

[Geyde]

FoL is the highest power setup I’ve seen with some feasible balance
This is even higher power

[Geyde]

Maf had like no kp in LotRFM

[Vulgard]

exactly.

[Maxwell]

I would love to see a faction like this again, only versus a much comprehensively improved BD
Alice tried to buff BD in a couple tiny ways in this setup and then just ceased.
Kind of a shame