If he was converted, who protected Shurian from Kyo attempting to kill him?
okay Iāve been really busy so heres me catching up like 800 posts in record time
if Kyo is Visionary then there is no convert or itās Shurian
If Shurian is BD then Kyo is the Visionary; in which I donāt think his words matter much here
Neither of us saw a Kyo visit n1 so itās not impossible that the N2 visit I saw was the convert
That is what I am for, yes
Itās very unlikely Kyo is the N2 convert
If Kyo is visionary then the convert literally has to be me or Shurian
Yeah so Iāve totally been busy with thanksgiving or something, I can barely even respond right now but I spent a lot of yesterday cooking and a lot of today being with my family, my bad Iāll tell my family to not exist real quick
lol, that sounds awful
Okay, so we got Kyo as a potential Visi. (I forgot whether there was a counterargument for this or not.)
Then we have the possibility that Shurian was a role which gave him DI. ā¦for example, a certain N-Forcer?
Truth be told my plan was to use my day ability on Wazza because I donāt believe either handmaiden is real
the ToL player in me says that maids are fake
And for whatever reason, if there was enforcer on him, how did this not kill Kyo??
However one thing we can agree: D2 death immunity potion proves he couldnāt be killed by Kyo and he have most likely prevent visits to Wazza that night.
Yeah Iām not gonna lie that kinda frustrated me to read but I forget that Thanksgiving isnāt as big outside of the americas; youāre forgiven
Do we have any protective claims alive?
They would be confirmed once they would flip dead upon being attackedā¦
That canāt find Visionary anyways.
Orā¦ shockerā¦ they lied
Because we have the time to ensure that neutrals donāt mess with anything. Getting them out now while we can and not later when we canāt afford the lynch .Thatās the worst case, where they would actually be neuts, which isnāt guaranteed either. If there is some other NE out there, they would surely stay quiet now if a BD would take their claim.
Plus they are the only ones that can fuck up the nightplan confirming literally 5 players as non-BD.
Yes, letās trust the neutral claim who is literally incentivized to have the game last longer if they are actually what they are claimingā¦ like seriously.
Also in the original plan, Sir was supposed to be jail exed. Of course, they would pull out whatever stops they can to prevent that from happening if they would be neut or BD!
AND YOU TRUST IT. XD
Except not, because this makes zero sense from a Strigoi mindset. Youād lose in that case.
Isaac, the pro, the voice of reason lol.
I love you Isaac.
In the original nightplan. Wazza gets killed by Kyo. How is that not perfect? This is why neut claims need to die. They just sow doubt and confusion, with them out, itās so much easier to gamesolve.
Derps was about to be jailed/executed and suddenly misread his logs 
If they are some kind of scumsided neutral, ā¦ they can lie.
Thatās false and youāre lying I didnāt suddenly misread my logs lmao go fucking read
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That doesnāt explain how they did not die by Kyo, you know?
I know, get reflected.
Or you know, lynch KyoDaz and game over for the bad guys. But, letās go lynch Wazza instead : D
Like this is so disheartening, youād rather go along with a literal claimed scum-sided neutral. ^^
Yes thatās true, although I donāt understand why lynching Shurian WOULD prove it as itās not clear to you that you should lynch Kyo instead, the one converted Shurian.
Kill the converter, Shurian becomes the converter that canāt convert until N5 and is not investigative immune.