[SFoL] SFoL 57: Last Stand of the Virtuous [Canned]

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#1161

Someone revealing themself as town makes the odds of them being town 100 percent

#1162

Okay, and why does acting scummy as town happen to matter?
Why should we be self-aware even if we act scummy?
We play towards our goal, we don’t care how we act.
If people believe it’s scummy and mislynch me then it’s their fault as I was playing towards our win.

#1163

Have you considered the possibility that the problem is you

#1164

It needs to change as a common misconception as the ‘scummy’ thing can come from town.
And that’s why it isn’t scummy. It plays towards town’s win.
It’s completely useless not doing that.

#1165

uh sorry that was mean

#1166

Like Arete’s argument is super simple… ugh.

They think you’re scummy
If somehow you could mechanically clear yourself, they’d be wrong then. Considering you still have not, they still think you’re scummy.

That’s it.

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#1167

No, the problem is the ideology of playing by the book.
I’m not going to play by the book and how I should play, I’m going for our win.
Not how people think I should win.

#1168

Can you explain how what you’re doing, if you are indeed town, advances the town win condition

because right now where I’m at is ‘Kyo is scum, a gamethrower, or the world’s worst Prince Duke’

#1169

It confuses scum.
That’s primarily it.
It sends them to WIFOM rather than giving them all of the information.

#1170

ah, yes, detonating Solic, an incredible play that definitely progressed your win condition

getting yourself jailexe’d in Clash of Cults, an incredible play that definitely progressed your win condition

#1171

Your Duke claim isn’t even the thing I think is scummy, it’s everything else about your Iso

#1172

@KyoDaz

#1173

Okay, and that was supposed to have him flip scum. That wasn’t anything to do by playing by the book.

If I wasn’t jail-executed that play could have drastically increased Town’s chances of winning in that stage.
I relied on Prince townreading me. It didn’t work.

#1174

Can we just cool it?

Arete, nothing is going to happen to Kyo until at least day 2.

Kyo, you townread Arete, so stop this stupid argument that is just lowering everyone’s WiM and doesn’t help in finding scum whatsoever…

#1175

So you think if I can’t mechanically clear myself I’m most likely scum?

#1176

In any case this is pretty simple, if Kyo is actually the Duke he can jail someone and say in his message ‘by the way I’m Kyo and I’m actually the Duke’

if he’s not the Duke the actual Duke can jail him and we can execute him tomorrow, or in jail N2

problem solved

#1177

Duke can be converted.
I’m not confirming myself.

#1178

Have you considered … that when your response to being scumread … is to claim Prince … the Prince might think that this is because you’re scum :thinking:

#1179

I wasn’t being scumread then.
I was being townread.

#1180

You’re reversing cause and effect

I think you’re scum

If you can mechanically clear yourself, then I’ll be able to know that you aren’t scum