[SFoL] SFoL 57: Last Stand of the Virtuous [Canned]

[Maxwell]

this game was doomed from the start

[Maxwell]

@Maxwell

I realize this is all up to mod discretion, but i think it’s fair for me to ask that i be relegated to backseat abilities from a hosting perspective for a while going forward instead of being outright blacklisted. I did not circumvent the review process in any way whatsoever like alice did and I even waited two weeks after finishing this build for a reviewer to have the time to help me.

I also think it makes sense to establish better guidelines where less experienced hosts must either take a secondary role for action and feedback processing to veteran co-hosts or be forced to discuss all actions + feedback with such co-hosts before giving any feedback.

FoL 24, which I took the driver’s seat on processing actions for, also had multiple moderrors, and I know Kyo’s BfA game had several moderrors as well and he was a newbie host at that time.

@Maxwell

It was just kind of frustrating that my co-host left midgame and even when he was here, he didn’t help at all with feedback processing as he told me explicitly to not share my feedback spreadsheet with him and that he would not help with that.

@Maxwell

yes, for very newbie hosts like me, 2-3 co-hosts is best.

I would assess that I had 0 co-hosts for the entire game since ability / feedback processing is the core of hosting and in the end what matters far more than anything else

@Maxwell

if i ever hosted again, I would either send zero feedback, just letting other hosts do that, or wait to send any feedback whatsoever until I’d had a conversation with other host(s) and we’ve gone over things 2-3 times and are certain we are processing action interactions correctly for EoN.

@eevee

[Emilia]

I am not co-host

[Maxwell]

I would like the ability to still be able to create new games. That matters infinitely more to me than being able to be the main host on said games or any other games.

[Maxwell]

eevee, are you comfortable revealing why you claimed insurgent as plague doctor?

[Maxwell]

like i said, the rand of this game was absurdly townsided and that n1 moderror made it even more so, but your fake claim kind of undid that.

[Emilia]

you could have pinged me to help with hosting tho

[Maxwell]

i did not know that

[Maxwell]

@eevee

[Maxwell]

it was also a huge mistake to not wait until I was able to make the OP myself, when I didn’t know my co-host would become entirely inactive mid-game.

[Maxwell]

So yeah, from my point of view, i never had a co-host at all, and that sucked.

[eevee]

@Luxy

explain yourself.

[Maxwell]

He said he couldn’t edit google sheets on mobile in host chat but I know there is a google sheets app

[Maxwell]

i regret running this game with a co-host who could not really co-host this game, and listening to groupscum’s pleas to not can the game when the game’s integrity had already been ruined far beyond repair

[Maxwell]

im really sorry i didn’t listen to you sooner @PoisonedSquid. you were right all along

[Frostwolf103]

I did say can the game as well

[Maxwell]

you did but no one else did and groupscum asked vehemently for it not to be canned

[Maxwell]

but to be fair no one besides soul, luxy, and i knew of that breach for almost a week, and not revealing that sooner was a huge mistake and im really sorry

[Maxwell]

i could not have revealed the nature of that breach to any living player without simultaneously canning the game as that solved the game definitively, but i should have told dead chat sooner.

[PoisonedSquid]

Actually, I do want to say I’m sorry for how harsh I was acting. I asked Eevee about the situation to get a second opinion and well… he said it was better to finish the game in a no contest rather than can it part-way through